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⌈ Secret Post #1482 ⌋

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Yeah, fuck those black students who don't want their white peers callously tossing around language that has been used to historically degrade them. Who gives a flying fuck about their feelings? Nobody, that's who.

(Protip: This isn't about censoring or covering up the past. It's about accomodating the needs and desires of populations who have been oppressed and shit upon since white people first figured out they existed.)

Wouldn't it make more sense, then, to just not read the book instead of changing it? Even if you take out the offensive word, the book is still racist. It's not like there aren't other (and better) ways of teaching students about racism.

Well, since that would involve uprooting the entire white-supremacist educational system, eviscerating its ideals and deconstructing its reverence for white male "classic" authors...

yeah. That'll happen.

Baby steps.

I think that there are correct baby steps though, and I think that getting rid of an offensive word is not it. It's like putting concealer on a huge pimple. Yes, I agree that getting rid of the institutionalized racism (and sexism, since you brought up gender) in the schools is difficult, but I don't think this by itself is a good first step. Maybe teaching this book and talking about why that word is offensive, and why it was changed, or, even better, teaching this book along side a book about racism in the same time period written by a black person. But just changing the word alone doesn't really do anything to fight racism. Yes, it does make black students more comfortable, and I will agree that for that reason it is a good idea. But my fear is that a lot of people (mostly white people) will this is as the end result, not baby steps, and will be patting themselves on the back for this.

Yeah, man! You know what else totally oppressed and shit on black people? Slavery! We should remove that word from history books, and replace it with something less oppressive, like "happy party fun time"! That will totally fix all the inherent problems with slavery, and then we won't have to teach kids why it was bad.

I don't know what crazy fucking world you live in, but I have never even heard of a white kid thinking that it was cool to use the n-word just because they read fucking Mark Twain. That is ridiculous.

To say that making a censored version specifically for helping make the text more accesible in a classroom setting is tantamount to trying to cover up or re-write history is insensitive, ridiculous, and completely removed from the actual issue at hand. The 'censored' versions HAVE intros that explain what word was actually used, and even more why it has been censored, and finishes by encouraging discussion and awareness about how racial attitudes today are still largely hurtful and challenging the students themselves to form an opinion on this change.

So put your hyperbole away.

First of all, Huck Finn is about a white kid learning to see a black man as a fellow human being, and thus coming to realize that slavery is wrong. That is the POINT of the book. It was an anti-slavery novel.
Second: so you know, the Africans who were sold into slavery? They were sold TO the white slave traders BY their FELLOW AFRICANS as prisoners of war, at least, the ones who weren't kept as slaves to the other Africans themselves. Not that this makes a difference in the morality of the situation, but it always annoys me when people try to make out like the US was the only place with slavery. That and the fact that a) if you don't know that black kids call EACH OTHER the n word all the time, you are living under a rock, b) anyone in a class where that book is being taught is going to KNOW the context, and c) there are TONS of books, without necessarily a message that racism is wrong, written in the modern day containing that word as well, which aren't being censored

I am not saying that it is all right to say the n word, before you start yelling.I am saying that censorship of HF is stupid.

Are you. Like. Fucking twelve years old or something?

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