[ SECRET POST #1482 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1482 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Sorry, fixed the date on the subs post. It should have read "first secret post will be January 29th," not the 22nd.

Secrets Left to Post: 14 pages, 332 secrets from Secret Submission Post #212.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 3 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

i think anon wasn't talking about people who are veg*, anon was talking about animals. and while animals aren't an oppressed minority the same way for example poc are, western human cultures do create and maintain a hierarchy in which humans are seen as above animals, and animals are treated accordingly. (protip: it's not a coincidence that oppressed minorities are regularly compared to or even literally seen as animals.)

[(Anonymous)]

Animals are below humans. Also the fact you stated this may mean…you are one of the animal lovers not above killing humans if it means 'one more doggie can live'. How we treat animals is up to question here, not whether we are on equal grounds.

[(Anonymous)]

um, wow, that's really nice how you made the jump from my criticism of human animal relations to claiming that i am a potential killer. people like you are the reason why my friends ended up in prison despite there being no evidence that they ever committed any crimes at all. fuck you very much.

for the record: i am not an animal lover and killing isn't exactly my type of activism.

you are not the one who gets to decide what is up to question here and what isn't. how we treat animals is based on how we see animals. and there are so, so many things wrong with how we see animals that result in our mistreatment of them. yeah, other animals are not on equal grounds with humans in the sense that there are some significant characteristics that distinguish humans from other animals. but in other important ways, we are similar. i just don't think there's a need to establish that we are infinitely better or more important.

[(Anonymous)]

if your friend is in prison…then he/she obviously did something wrong and that has nothing to do with me or people like me.

Good, you had me worried there.

Animals are not on equal grounds with us, period. Sorry but until they start forming societies and religions and all the other things that make humans, human then they will never be. However that means we, as the superior beings, must respect them and that we need them to live. This means we should not torture animals, even if they are to be eaten. Respect their habitat and not go about destroying it. Do not over hunt any animal as it means less in the long run for all of us and that people will starve.

On this note: despite my arguments I don't care who's a vegan/vegetarian and if they want to be that's fine. I have a problem when people start to tell me I should be a vegan/vegetarian or that's how my child should be raised, which is slowly what's happening as the 'nanny state' starts to take over our lives like communism. Meat is not killing anyone (but the animals eaten) it's a bad diet of more meat then veggies and meats heavy in fats that kill people. That or if the meat is diseased…but the same stuff happens to plants so that's more a matter of how it's farmed over whether it should be eaten or not.

[(Anonymous)]

The only reason why they were imprisoned is that someone got the idea that because they openly protested against the fur trade, they could also be responsible for crimes that have been comitted in the name of animal rights. As I said, so far no evidence to support this claim has come up.

I already acknowledged that there are things that distinguish humans from other animals. However, I fail to see how forming societies and having totally awesome stuff like religion makes us superior to animals. You've gotta explain that one to me.