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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-01-23 04:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #1482 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1482 ⌋

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Notes:

Sorry, fixed the date on the subs post. It should have read "first secret post will be January 29th," not the 22nd.

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[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree.

The fact that Twain even uses the word in the first place shows that, even if he was "a man ahead of his time," he was still so much a part of his time that he thought it was acceptable to use that word. It's not only a part of learning about the actual text but also about the mentality of the people who lived during that time, even the ones who may have been against racism.

The issue is obviously ridiculously sensitive and should be taught carefully. However, some of the uncomfortable things in life are necessary so that people can grow as people and become educated. Obviously no one in a class should be using the discussion of the book to get enjoyment out of tossing the word around. And if I'm being completely honest, I've had to read books with racial slurs in them but no teacher I've had has ever read/ made a student read a passage with a slur aloud in class.

I also think that removing racial slurs from historic books, it serves to give them more power. While I don't like the word at all, I can kinda understand the whole "taking back the word" mentality as an attempt to strip negative words of their power.

[identity profile] jaquenerd.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Did Twain ever use that word to describe and black people in the book? I thought that it was mostly used in the context of dialogue or when other characters were describing people.

BUT I AM PROBABLY WRONG

Honestly what I object to more is the fact that reading yet another book about how a poor white guy learns to see a black man as a person/equal might be tiring for the black students in the class. HOWEVER I think this book is one of the better deconstructions of privilege, classism, and racism than most.

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I think it may have just been in the dialogue. I've never read it but I'm sure if Twain himself had used it in the book, outside of dialogue, no one would be saying that he isn't a racist.

I understand that it's tiring. I'm black so I know it can be awkward and that it can get a bit boring. But however uncomfortable or bored I may be, I know it's important to learn about these things in school. It's 100% necessary that books like this are taught. This kind of literature will always be important. We'd never going to stop teaching students about the Holocaust or the Women's Rights Movement no matter how bored/tired of hearing about it Jewish students or female students may get. It's a part of history and as long as there are future generations being born, there will always be people who need to be educated on the subjects.