[ SECRET POST #1490 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1490 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 08 pages, 200 secrets from Secret Submission Post #213.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 (MSPA spoilers) 2 3 4 5 6 7 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: OP again.

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

lolol oh yes, fruits and vegetables are SO CHEAP... unless you live in an urban environment, or a grocery desert, or don't have the time to prepare them before they (very quickly) go bad, or don't have the money to replace them when they inevitably go bad, or don't have the time/money to go to the store every X days when your fruits/veggies go bad and/or run out, or they cost more because gasp you live in an area where the cost of food and cost of living is very high, or any number of other special conditions. Get back to me when you can afford grapes at $3.50 per fucking pound, cos I sure as hell can't. And before you suggest that there are other options, the only affordable fruits where I live (NYC) are apples and oranges. Okay, and sometimes kiwi, but those can be a crapshoot, quality-wise. Vegetables are expensive as hell here, especially if they're out of season (good luck finding an ear of corn in any season but summer!), so I won't even go there.

Chicken breast is very expensive unless you get it on a steep sale from a good store. I'm actually heading out the door now to shop, and I have down $8 for a four-pound package of boneless, skinless (non-organic) chicken breasts on my list. This is on sale, at the best/cheapest (in terms of cleanliness and quality as well as price) grocery in my area... which is still more than thirty blocks from my apartment. If I lived any farther away and wasn't taking it easy on classes this semester, I wouldn't be able to buy my groceries there, and the price for a similar package of chicken breasts would skyrocket, and the quality would go down. That is, of course, ignoring the fact that few human beings can or want to survive on a diet of apples, lettuce and chicken breasts.

This also ignores, again, the issue of food deserts and areas where you don't have access to fresh fruits, vegetables, or - gasp! - chicken breasts. If your only option for groceries is the corner bodega, and they don't sell fresh? You're screwed.

It also ignores the wonderful issues brought up by cold_river_blue regarding time and its effect on what we can buy and prepare.

It is absolutely expensive to eat healthy. It is absolutely expensive to diet. And it is classist bullshit to suggest that anyone can eat healthy no matter how much or how little money they make, what job(s) they have, what obligations they have, and so on down the line. Fuck you and your "oh it's SO CHEAP if you don't think it's cheap you must be talking about all-organic food" bullshit.

Re: OP again.

[leafing.livejournal.com]

Grapes are $3.99 per pound here. The solution: treat grapes as a special treat. Food doesn't even necessarily have to be fresh or super short-lived to be healthy.

Here's a fun example: let's compare a package of ramen noodles to a package of Cream of Wheat, which stores well and is fast and easy as shit to prepare. A 3 oz package of "Top Ramen" noodles here costs $.99. Each package contains two servings' worth of soup mix (contains 190 calories/serving). A package of Cream of Wheat costs $2.30. Each box of Cream of Wheat contains 22 servings (contains 130 calories/serving).

So in order to match the number of servings from a $2.30 box of Cream of Wheat, I'd need to buy $10.89 worth of noodle packets. If I wanted to flavor my Cream of Wheat (frankly it's boring on its own), I'd buy a $2.50 jar of peanut butter and still come out saving around 6 bux. If I wanted to make it REALLY fancy and spend my leftover ramen money on something nice, I could get 7 and a half pounds of bananas. That's like 30 bananas. That would be stupid though (unless I froze them). Maybe like one pound (4 large bananas) would be good, or I could spread it over the 22 servings of cream of wheat and get 2 and a thirds pounds of bananas ($2.20). One half of a large banana contributes about 65 calories. A tablespoon of peanut butter contributes about 95 calories.

So now I've spent a grand total of $7 on 22 decent tasting and reasonably healthy 290 calorie meals, where before I would have spent $10.89 for 22 decent tasting and horrifyingly unhealthy 190 calorie meals.

I can do up loads more examples.

Re: OP again.

[(Anonymous)]

DAMN BRO I THINK YOU JUST OWNED THAT FATASS

Re: OP again.

[leafing.livejournal.com]

You forgot the part where I'm obviously wrong because math is an evil tool of the upper class.

Re: OP again.

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

I was using the grapes as a general example of produce prices. Trust me, I got back from grocery shopping a couple of hours ago. The produce was fucking ridiculous, and unfortunately with the exception of my precious, precious apples, none of it will last very long.

See, that wouldn't be a bad example if it weren't for two things: First, IMO Cream of Wheat is utterly disgusting (my mother the Health Nut [tm] went through a phase of eating that for almost every meal and it makes me sick to even look at it), and second, nobody (except, apparently, my mother */snark*) wants to eat fucking Cream of Wheat for every single meal. It's not even remotely healthy to do so, either, regardless of what fruit and peanut butter to stick in it. Further, bananas, again, are a fruit that goes very quickly, and sure they're cheap, but they're risky, too (not just because they go bad, but because they attract fruit flies - I've never had fruit flies without bananas preceding them into the kitchen, especially as you can't refrigerate bananas). Fiiinally, not everybody knows how to make Cream of Wheat, has the time or resources to do so, knows what the hell to do with it (I certainly don't!), knows what to use in it or flavor it with, and on and on and on. And just to cap it off, not everyone knows Cream of Wheat is healthy (and is it really? I mean, seriously, it doesn't sound particularly healthy to me).

And... well, I doubt most people who don't absolutely have to would buy 22 straight meals' worth of ramen. I used to get it as backup for when my food ran out cos it was cheap and easy to store when I lived in a dorm (rural area, no car -- I went grocery shopping every three weeks or so if I was lucky, and hardly anything outside of boxes and pouches lasts that long).

Anyway... yeah, you can probably come up with a few more examples. I can probably continue to baffle you by bringing up examples of reasons why people might not be able to use your examples, why substituting certain foods for others doesn't always work, why they aren't applicable, or how I've never fucking heard of them before.

IT DOES NOT CHANGE FACTS. Eating healthy is EXPENSIVE. Eating healthy food is a fucking PRIVILEGE. I just got home from a mostly-healthy shopping trip and I don't even want to think about what my indulgences in the produce department just cost. And many, many people in my area - my city - do not even have the resources I do. SO MANY people cannot simply get on the bus whenever they have time and take an hour's trip out of their way to the nearest actual grocery store, buy everything they need for a week or two in one go, and pay the extra $12 to get a car service to bring them home because they bought too much to carry on the bus. Speaking of, not everyone has the luxury of knowing that if they put something off a bit, they can go back for it the following weekend because they'll have the time and money to do so. Not everyone knows how to prepare foods that aren't pre-packaged or pre-cooked. Not everyone has access to an oven, stove, or microwave. Not everyone has access to a grocery store, period -- ever heard of "grocery deserts"?

I could go on, and on, and on, but I won't. Cos I have stuff to do and... well, it's annoying to keep going over this classist garbage time and time again.

Re: OP again.

[leafing.livejournal.com]

not everybody knows how to make Cream of Wheat

not everybody knows how to make Cream of Wheat

not everybody knows how to make Cream of Wheat

Oh my god did you seriously

It's like ten times easier and less resource-heavy than preparing a package of ramen noodles or a frozen pizza

Protip: You pour the package into a bowl and put a little bit of warm water in it. If it's especially difficult you might actually have to STIR IT.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT WAS COMPLICATED

Jesus fuck there's so much that doesn't make sense here I don't even know where to begin