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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-02-19 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #1509 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1509 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2011-02-19 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I made that trek every day for three years. It's not that bad. It's just under an hour and a half, most days, and can be as quick as an hour and fifteen minutes if the traffic is right.

As for there being other big cities closer? There really aren't.

[identity profile] revieloutionne.livejournal.com 2011-02-19 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
They didn't say big cities, though. And there are definitely cities/towns that are closer. Findlay is closer (especially for being a straight shot down an interstate), and there are plenty of towns between it and Lima, all off 75. (I spent a good two and a half hours on 75 every time I went from hometown to college or back. I know me some cities off 75.)

(Also, I'm befuddled/amused that Tiffin and Findlay and fuckin' Wooster show up on the map and not Sandusky. Screw you, Sandusky, you are very boring to live in.)

(Anonymous) 2011-02-19 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
They didn't, but Findlay is actually smaller than Lima--why would it have a prep school, let alone a boarding school? Same goes for pretty much anywhere other than Columbus and Toledo, at least in that area.

Are there towns? Sure. But they're all farm communities or corporate towns. A couple of college towns, if you want to get creative. But they're all places with less than 100K people (actually, I'm not sure there are even any that break 50K, now that I think about it), and either small or consolidated school districts.

I was under the impression that Dalton was meant to be like Columbus Academy, without the switch to co-ed. The closest place I could see that existing would be Columbus metro. *shrugs*

(Nobody wants to live in Sandusky. The only reason to go there is Cedar Point. I'm sort of amused that the map recognized that.)

[identity profile] joyful.livejournal.com 2011-02-19 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I went to high school in Lima, NY, which has one tenth the population of Lima, Ohio, (4,500 people, as opposed to 40,000 people in Lima, OH) and the town had a private school and a small private college. It wasn't even big enough for it's own public school, the public school was a conjoined district with the next town over, but it had a private school.

A lot of Christian schools, prep schools, boarding schools and other small private institutions are actually in very small small towns.

(Anonymous) 2011-02-20 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, they are in small towns, in some parts of the country. But in NW Ohio, the closest prep schools (and there aren't that many--maybe three dozen that might have the sort of programs Dalton does) are either near/in one of the three C's, or at a stretch in Toledo.

I think Dayton has one, and there's one in Powell--which is a bit north of Columbus. The closest one to Lima is probably MVCD, and that's still an hour and fifteen minutes north. I'd have to call home and ask if there's one closer than that, but I'd be surprised to find that there is.

Part of why there are prep schools in small towns in the northeast U.S. is that the concept of universal, state-funded education isn't all that old. Those schools, run by private concerns and churches, were the only real educational option until the 1840s. Which means there are a lot of them in parts of the country settled before then--and fewer in the midwest, which was relatively unpopulated at the time.

My point is based on regional geography, not national--in Ohio, a substantial majority of the prep schools are in places with big enough populations to support them locally. The towns around Lima are small, and the people in them are by default committed to public education as a concept (even if they're frequently utter CRAP at funding it). There aren't really private prep schools in those towns--not even the college towns. The private schools that there are? K-8, and usually church schools.

I'm not arguing that prep schools can't be in small towns. I'm saying that I lived in the area for most of my life, I drove from Lima to Columbus for my education five days a week for years, and the idea of a prep school in one of the non-core cities in that part of the state makes me tilt my head and wonder what the OP is smoking.

I am going to go see if I can find one, though. Maybe I managed to completely ignore a progressive, single-sex, community-supported prep school while I earned my high school, undergraduate, and graduate degrees within 100 miles of Lima. Anything's possible. *shrugs*

[identity profile] joyful.livejournal.com 2011-02-20 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Why does is have to be an actual, existing, school? William McKinley, the high school on the show, isn't a real school, it's completely fictional. So are Dalton, Carmel, and all the other schools on the show. Why couldn't the writers have put this completely fictional school in a geographical location that was closer to Lima?

I thought that was the OP's point, but I might have missed it.

(Anonymous) 2011-02-20 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
The OP's point as I read it was that the show hadn't done its research--which I agree with, the background research on Glee is crap--and no one would go from Lima to Columbus every day for school. I'm saying a) of course someone would, I can think of several people off the top of my head who did just that, and b) it wouldn't be all that strange to drive to a nearby large city to go to a private high school, given the setting.

There doesn't need to be a real school to base it on (after all, William McKinley isn't anything like Lima Senior, where the locals love their performing arts program and their football team with equal, slightly awkward, abandon) but I'm saying that not only is there no real school to base it on, no one in Lima would EXPECT such a school. People in NW Ohio see Kurt going to school in Columbus, shrug, and mention that it's hell on the car and gas is damned expensive these days. And then they go back to mocking all of the things the show gets wrong.

In this particular point, entirely by accident, the show has gotten it right. It looks weird only from the outside, which is why I find this entire discussion faintly hilarious. (Mind you, the travel times from Westerville to Lima that the show assumes are mind-boggling. It's not THAT fast. But they're certainly faster than the map the OP chose indicates.)