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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-03-16 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #1534 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1534 ⌋

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand what you're friend is saying. She thinks it's sad that people do things on line? That's just silly. You might as well say you think it's sad that people have actual work lives that they feel the need to maintain along with their social life. Or that it's sad to have friends who live far away from you that you feel the need to keep in touch with along with the friends you see in person all the time.

[identity profile] forever-alone.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh for fuck's sake, this fucking viewpoint. Different people have different wants and needs and sets of social skills. Not everyone prefers or is able to have a great social life, and the same can be said of 'online life.' Plenty of people are able to balance the two. No aspect of that is necessarily sad or pathetic or LOL PATHOLOGICAL BASEMENT DWELLER.

Do not judge your life/hobbies/etc. by someone else's narrow opinion of what is normal and acceptable. If you're not hurting yourself or others and you're having fun, why worry? Get your enjoyment where you can, whether it's IRL or online or both.

[identity profile] cyren-2132.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, there's an argument to be made that a lack of face-to-face interaction with real people is "harmful" to oneself. I'm not making that argument, because I'm kind of a shut-in except for the occasional time spent with select other people and perfectly happy that way (and I don't think it's because I'm living in some sort of delusional land where I'm really depressed and miserable but just don't know it), but I've seen it made.

[identity profile] no-one-specific.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Me, I have friends, and interests, and all that outside the internet. I'm young, and I have a future, yadda yadda etc. But in person, I can't talk about what I want, or say the things that I need to say, and I never know how to handle a situation. I can never say what I want or how I feel unless I'm breaking down crying or going into a screaming rage.
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Me, I have friends, and interests, and all that outside the internet. I'm young, and I have a future, yadda yadda etc. But in person, I can't talk about what I want, or say the things that I need to say, and I never know how to handle a situation. I can never say what I want or how I feel unless I'm breaking down crying or going into a screaming rage. <small<I know I need to work on that for my real life, so please don't mention that to me. I'm working on it.</small>

Online, though, everything makes sense--it's all words and text and it's anonymous. I don't have to worry about people judging me ("You judge me online? Cool story, bro.") and I can say what I feel that I need to say. So yes, I put value in being online, because if I had a choice, I would rather be the person who's online, rather than the person who's typing. That's why I like to maintain my life online, and to be involved in online fandoms and to comment on here. Even though I'm not actively involved and I'm hardly in any comms (just here and another one), this is what I like to do, and I want to maintain my internet life just as much as my 'real' life.

[identity profile] ceruleansan.livejournal.com 2011-03-17 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
Are you me?

[identity profile] demishock.livejournal.com 2011-03-17 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
Echoing ceruleansan - are you me, too? I hate how I can't have a serious conversation IRL without getting all choked up and teary-eyed. I'm 24 and it's getting to be really embarrassing, but I have no idea how to NOT do that. And forget coherency; as soon as my mouth has to form words to argue my case for something, every thought in my head retreats into the abyss somewhere.

But give me a keyboard and everything clicks into place. I still get emotional and teary talking about serious things with people online, but I don't have to be embarrassed about it, because no one can see it.

(Anonymous) 2011-03-17 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay but, I'm not trying to criticize you (of course, I don't even know you) but don't you think that it might be better to try and figure out how to have a serious IRL conversation without breaking down? Because at some point in your life you are probably going to have to do this without being able to hide behind a keyboard. I honestly don't mean to insult you and I'm not trollin', but in all seriousness I don't think the prevailing attitude toward this subject on LJ is healthy.

[identity profile] omorka.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see this as any different from people in the 1800s having intense personal relationships by post, or people in the 1960s doing a lot of their socialization by telephone. Some people just handle things better other than by face-to-face, and there's nothing wrong with that.

[identity profile] unstoppablei.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
There's no harm in doing what makes you happy. There is harm in judging people for doing what makes them happy. Maybe your friend needs to stop feeling so 'sad' for us poor internet nerds and focus on her own life, 'cause we're just fine (and very happy!)

[identity profile] innatizzy.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand your friend's viewpoint. Why is making friends and having hobbies online, and making a commitment to those friends and hobbies, sad?

I suppose if you were spending all your time online and neglecting offline responsibilities due to some obsessive need to maintain this online life 24/7, then it could get kind of sad. But otherwise, no.

[identity profile] planetes.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't meet them offline. You can't know if all your friends aren't actually old pedophiles. You can't see and meet and interact with them like... Actually hug them or go to the cafe together therefore it's not real.
It's only some stranger on the internet. You're basically interacting with your computer so it's sad that, basically, the computer is your friend.


That's what I've been told by people like OP's friend, anyway.

[identity profile] innatizzy.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say those are arguments/reasons that people who do not interact online would make. And it's sad that they would completely dismiss something that they have no experience with or understanding of.

[identity profile] aoi-hikari-ai.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Uuuuugh oh god this is like listening to my parennnnts. *facepalm* Way to hit it on the head there, that's exactly what I get from them when I tried to explain things to them.

They always seem to ignore that hey, I do hang out with my offline friends, quite frequently infact in spite of our schedules, just cause I care about people online doesn't make me a shut in.

(Anonymous) 2011-03-16 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny that people on F!S are usually all 'OMG different viewpoint! Don't judge!' and yet when this topic comes up they all get suddenly defensive and say it's really wrong and unfair.

[identity profile] no-one-specific.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Defending your viewpoint =/= judging someone for a different viewpoint

(Anonymous) 2011-03-16 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] dentedsky.livejournal.com 2011-03-17 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Because OP friend's viewpoint sounds narrow-minded (to me). It feels similar to when my friend says she won't go swimming because sometimes there's sharks and sometimes people drown. But if she got proper swimming lessons and keeps between the flags I think she could enjoy the beach as much as I do.

Anyways, I don't see people on F!S saying 'omg different viewpoint' to homophobes or misogynists etc.
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[identity profile] mutantjules.livejournal.com 2011-03-17 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're okay. I have an online and an offline social life and I'm very comfortable with that :D

(Anonymous) 2011-03-17 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Are you feeling sad?

Your own answer is what matters.

(Anonymous) 2011-03-17 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Are you me, OP?