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⌈ Secret Post #1535 ⌋

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Agreed, and WHY WHY WHY is it that whenever R/Hr is critisized, it's RON who's not good enough for HERMIONE? Why is it that the R/Hr fans are ALWAYS making arguments for why Ron is the best boy for Hermione, but not why Hermione's the best girl for Ron? I ship R/Hr, but I admit there are a few things I don't like about it, and most of those come from Hermione's treatment of Ron, not the other way around. Ron has flaws, to be sure, but most of those flaws are things that Hermione has too. They're both stubborn, somewhat closed-minded, strong-willed and willing to fight for their beliefs (which isn't a bad thing, but can lead to argumentativeness) and sometimes tactless and that's what leads to the bickering between them, not the juxtaposition of Hemione's sainthood and Ron's evilness.
Ron deserves so much better than to be treated like he has to earn her. Hermione deserves so much better than to be treated like a prize. They are both awesome, ineresting, realistic, flawed sidekicks, and they're complete EQUALS, and that's what makes their relationship work, at least for those who ship it. And if you're going to criticize it, go for it, a book is nothing without constructive criticism, but don't just act like Hermione, being the girl, is a prize; a princess that poor pauper Ron needs to overcome his unworthy ways to earn.

Same. I've often wondered why on earth the fandom makes Hermione out to be some sort of amazing catch of a partner, when...she's not. She's flawed as all hell, just like Ron is. They work mostly because some of their biggest flaws they share and it works for them.

However, the reason, I think, Ron is never good enough for Hermione; why Ron always needs to defending for being her right match? Honestly, many Hermione fans have proven to be quite nuts--as in, more than just a few bad apples spoiling the bunch nuts. Full out, projecting everything they have in them onto Hermione, nuts. They refuse to see her as anything more than a brilliant, perfect, flawless character (naggy? manipulative? stubborn? insecure? know-it-all? NEVER!), so why on earth would she settle for that...normal, clearly flawed, non-shiny or special Weasley boy?

On the flip side, Ron fans (crazy bad apples aside, because everyone's got them) tend to be far less projecting. They read the characters as written, and can appreciate a character even if he's not shiny or special--in fact, that may be a bonus. They see and understand Ron's flaws and they also see and understand Hermione's flaws, so they're capable of understanding the pairing without needing to tear another character down. They're not out there projecting all over one character and making them better than the other one.

Firstly, I ship R/Hr. But that argument stems from what those shippers consider important in a relationship and for anti-R/Hr shippers, that was intellictualism. So to them, Ron was not on Hermione's level. (I disagree with this. Sometimes Ron was more perceptive than Hermione, especially in OOtP, and you can't play chess without being somewhat clever).

Word. Hermione was book-smart, Ron was perceptive and witty, and they both shared a logical, strategic intelligence: Ron with chess; Hermione with the potions thing at the end of PS and her various logical deductions throughout the series (I loved the scene in the DH movie where Harry says brilliant and she's like "oh, not really, I'm just very logical, which allows me too..." I know it was probably a product of the moviemaker's Hermione-worship, but it was cute and something Hermione would say.

I've always thought Hermione's faults were less evident when she was acting nicely with Ron (and vice versa), which is why I liked them together.

I consider myself an intellectual (*insert list of academic credentials throughout my life validating this point but no one cares to read* here) and while I like someone who can keep up and not just stare at me slack-jawed when I'm having a conversation, I sure as hell wasn't looking for the smartest guy in the room and checking SAT score for every guy who asked me out. A part of me (and honestly, I see this in Hermione too) liked being perceived as the smart one. ::shrug::

The guy I ended up marrying is actually pretty intelligent, but in a completely different way from me. If he gets going in math, science or logic, people will think I'm the dope because I have little to offer; however, when it comes to literature, history, current events, random pop culture, then I get to shine. I love that he and I combined are pretty damn awesome; he picks up the slack where I'm weaker and vice versa.

It's NICE to not be dating someone who brings what you already have to the table.

This is how I want to date too. Frankly, I often get irritated, since people seem to forget that there are 7 intelligences, and I don't discount a single one. While I think you have to have some things in common, like values, I feel like you have to be able to find your partner interesting.

Um, I love this comment.

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