[ SECRET POST #1535 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1535 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 058 secrets from Secret Submission Post #219.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I believe it's Moffat's weakness in characterization because this is kind of how I felt about all the characters in series 5. I like them all well enough but didn't make any intense connections.

[got_swagger]

This. Moffat goes for plot over characterization and emotional resonance, which are the two things I NEED to have in a show - the plot can go to hell for all I care.

Like, I like Eleven, adore Rory, and am fine with Amy, but mostly, I just don't really care what happens, which is different with how I felt about the characters in S1-S4, because I was so invested in those characters.

I'm hoping it's better in S6.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I kind of realized I didn't really even care that 11, Rory and Amy were continuing on, whereas I was desperately attached to all the characters in S1-S4.

Even if I didn't like a character I usually had more of an emotional reaction in series 1-4. I'm also hoping I get more attached in series 6.

[phoenix-tears89.livejournal.com]

I totally agree with this comment. Unfortunately, Moffat has expressed a clear preference for constant excitement over character development**. This is just me theorizing, but I imagine he's heavily influenced by his young sons, and wants to write the sort of thing they want to see, which is a whole lot of flash-bang and not too much angst.

**The exact quote: "There’s no need for character development, or chat, it’s straight into: ‘There’s something wrong here, let’s look into this deep, dark hole.’" The interview is from 2004, though, so we can hope his views have adjusted. Just a bit, maybe?

[princessgos.livejournal.com]

Nothing in S5 contradicted that quote, so I wouldn't get my hopes up about S6.

[got_swagger]

Exactly. (Except for the times where, you know, it takes the Doctor most of the episode (or two-parter) to figure out what is revealed to be blindingly obvious.)

[xbriyeon.livejournal.com]

THIS. is exactly why I liked RTD's writing more and could never hop onto the Moffat bandwagon, I just couldn't ever make as much of a connection to the characters since they just weren't as developed as Rusty's.

[masakochan.livejournal.com]

since they just weren't as developed as Rusty's

Well then- maybe it's just me, but I felt a fast connection to Amy, Rory, and even the Doctor in this past series. Though, granted I've only gotten up through 3 episodes of Season 2. I just think that everyone's going to have some characters they connect with, and some they don't.

I think Moffat just tends to go for more quiet and sometimes subtle developments that not everyone's going to pick up on on the first watch-through. But that's just what I think. *shrugs*

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know that second watch throughs really help, I watched series 5 twice but I still feel less attached to Moffat's characters then I did to RTD's.

I may get attached with more time, but I loved 9 pretty quickly so I think it's okay to assume I'm just not loving the characterization.

I feel potential to love the characters since I do like them, I'm just not quite there yet.

[masakochan.livejournal.com]

but I loved 9 pretty quickly so I think it's okay to assume I'm just not loving the characterization.

Eh, that's fine. I mean, I liked 9 too, even if it didn't really kick in for me until the end of The Doctor Dances, and only then did he become as close a favorite as 11 is to me.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen any quiet and subtle character developments even on multiple rewatches. If other people see them, that's great, but IMHO a lot of what they see is either fan conjecture or acting nuances, rather than the writing.

[masakochan.livejournal.com]

fan conjecture or acting nuances, rather than the writing.

Oh, I'm not going to disagree with this. I think the actors and actresses definitely add a ton to the development by adding on whatever's not there in the writing, or what they feel from reading it-should be there.