[ SECRET POST #1535 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1535 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 058 secrets from Secret Submission Post #219.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[velvet-mace.livejournal.com]

Yeah, we know what the bechdel test is. But this is a show that is firmly fixed in the POV of two male characters. It follows them from place to place and concentrates on the things that effect them.

All the other characters, male and female, interact with the main characters and only the main characters. Even the male secondary characters don't interact with anyone else. Even the villains and the victims of the don't talk to people other than the male leads.

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

That's fine. I'm just taking issue with the characterization of the Bechdel test as anything other than a quick and dirty yardstick that is about two women talking to each other about something other than a man. It says nothing about "strong women", as the person above seemed to think.

That the series itself doesn't pass it does not actually bother me a whole hell of a lot. It's only a couple episodes, it has a lot of other issues that I'd rather complain about.

[oxfordtweed]

Now I really want to know what lunch hour is like for Mike and Molly. Imagine the conversations they must have.

[fenm.livejournal.com]

Oh, man.... Mike and Molly as friends who (playfully) make fun of Sherlock behind his back... DO WANT!

[oxfordtweed]

QUICK! To the meme before it freezes!

[(Anonymous)]

but the point is that the Bechdel Test is meaningless in relation to one show. It's only meaningful because taken as a series of data points (aka comparisons of numerous shows/books/movies whatever) it can be a useful tool for illuminating the lack of main female characters overall.

That doesn't mean one show that fails is sexist, wrong, or that people who like it are sexist.