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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-03-17 04:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #1535 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1535 ⌋

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2011-03-17 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly can't tell, but was the plot supposed to be that predictable? Were they just rehashing Sherlock cases, or was it supposed to be riveting?

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(Anonymous) 2011-03-18 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
...I was riveted. :/
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2011-03-18 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry?

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[identity profile] aethre.livejournal.com 2011-03-18 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
I have no idea, but I spent the first two episodes lambasting the plot on twitter (to the point where I got told to write my own mystery novel). I mean, c'mooon, the taxi thing was dead obvious. I mean, I recognised straight away that taxis were going to be important (there were too many of them filmed) and as soon as Sherlock did that monologue about people blending in in crowds and whatever, it just cemented it for me. The second was too muddled to get any info out of - the only 'clue' was the cypher, and, again, I knew automatically that it was some sorta Asian writing and probably numbers at that.

Still have to watch the third episode. And actually, uhhh, read the books. How is it that, out of all the literature from that time period I've read, Sherlock Holmes isn't one of them?

Ah well. I've decided to watch for the characters being awesome instead of the plot. As per usual, really.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2011-03-18 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It wasn't even the obvious shots of cabs, because Sherlock couldn't know about that. It was that the first case was about some guy who got in a cab and hadn't seen anyone since. It wasn't that hard of a deduction from there, and I kept wondering why the fuck Sherlock hadn't thought about any of this or why, when he connected it to the traveling, he didn't go immediately to the cabby, not the passenger. You can't present someone as brilliant and then have them make really dumb mistakes.

From the first shot of the second case, with the yellow writing, I knew they were going to go for stereotypes, and they did. The third episode is actually better on terms of mystery but only because Sherlock is the only one with most of the clues and it get's visibly more dangerous at the beginning.

The actual Arthur Conan Doyle Sherlock kinda annoys me, because again, he's presented as brilliant and while he is, because Watson's narrating I never notice what Sherlock notices and I feel like that means Doyle and consequently Sherlock can solve mysteries out of thin air.

So yeah, I love the characters and the conversations, so I watch for that.

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[identity profile] aethre.livejournal.com 2011-03-18 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
he didn't go immediately to the cabby, not the passenger

Uggghh, that! I ended up so confused at that point because I couldn't figure out why the cab driver was a tourist until it clicked that Sherlock was just a bloody idiot and was talking to the passenger. It doesn't help that I'm Canadian and, despite watching tons of British tv recently, I still haven't figured out that drivers sit on the opposite side of the car than I'm used to.

I didn't catch stereotypes with the yellow paint, but I've never been able to catch stuff like that. Yellow meaning anything negative in that context just doesn't occur to me.

I thought that being able to solve mysteries out of thin air was the point of Sherlock Holmes? XD Perversely, I actually prefer it when I don't get any clues as to what the detective type is noticing - there's little point in reading/watching a mystery novel/show for me when there are clues. I always, always figure out what's going on ages in advance. Too many years of teaching myself to notice those things and extrapolate the likely conclusion(s) as a kid, I guess.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2011-03-19 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the passenger part, and the subsequent dismissal of the cabby when he came up to the apt. I was just shaking my head at that point.

It was the yellow paint coupled with the Asian love story where they were surrounded by ~Ancient China~ and subsequent death where he immediately knew what the paint meant. I was hoping that they were just trying to bring in a minority character, but I was surprised at my lack of faith of that.

By thin air, I mean it always felt like a writing cop-out. Like Doyle didn't know how to solve his mysteries logically from the way he presented them, so he made up clues that Sherlock notices afterward. That's why I like the really good Agatha Christie Poirot novels, since you might be able to figure it out, but it's a logical mystery. (I'm not even that observant in RL, but I learned movie/tv/book tropes very very early).