[ SECRET POST #1544 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1544 ⌋

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Comments

[lovelycudy.livejournal.com]

How can he be England and the United Kingdom at the same time? How can he be England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland when we know they have a separate, independent existence? IMHO, being and representing are two different things: using my previous example, Russia represents the Soviet Union but he's still Russia and Poland+Lithuania are the Commonwealth but remain Poland and Lithuania.

I think this boils down to what you think the characters represent. I understand them as nations not as political entities.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I think you're confusing your headcanon with canon. In the strips, England is stated as the UK through igirisu, which means Great Britain. It's canon.

[lovelycudy.livejournal.com]

Point taken.

[(Anonymous)]

When did I ever say they were political entities? Please don't put words in my mouth.

... They're human personifications of nations. How much logic can you possibly find in this?

Why is Prussia still around despite not being a proper nation anymore?

Why did Ancient Egypt/Greece have a kid and "died" when China's still around?

How the hell was Rome the "Roman Empire" despite all the other nations existing?

Why are there two Italies despite it being one country? Also, why are they Rome's grandchildren and not children like Ancient Egypt/Greece with Egypt/Greece... and where are their parents?

If you're going to be completely anal and go "ONLY CANON", then you know what? He's not England at all. He's just the UK. Problem solved.

[lovelycudy.livejournal.com]

Point taken.

[ecoerrante.livejournal.com]

Just to put this out there, but *because* he's representing the UK when it comes to international matters, it does follow that the other countries would be treating him that way, if only in public/business matters. In that set up, I'd think it would make more sense to call him the UK, unless there was a specific reason that whatever was going on was only dealing with the 'England' part of the UK. After that, people [and I'd assume personifications] tend to get into the habit of calling someone something, that could lead to it following over into non-public/business related parts of his life.

Granted, that's just what I think. ^^;;