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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-03-26 04:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #1544 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1544 ⌋

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[identity profile] avatarmn.livejournal.com 2011-03-27 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
But how is it rational to not mind the people who keep something you hate going? Hate the rape, not the rapist. Wat?

[identity profile] glansbilde.livejournal.com 2011-03-27 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
Really? That's not comparable at all. Being religious does not mean you do horrible things. Rape is an a soecific act of violence. Religion is a belief- those are two incredibly different things.

[identity profile] avatarmn.livejournal.com 2011-03-27 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I compared instigator to instigator, not the actions themselves.

[identity profile] glansbilde.livejournal.com 2011-03-27 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes no sense. Someone who THINKS about raping people(has that "belief" if you want) is not the same as a rapist(Someone who has raped). You compared a thought-process to a specific action.

[identity profile] avatarmn.livejournal.com 2011-03-27 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
WHAT they're supporting doesn't matter. Forget religion. Forget rape. Plug in ANYTHING. If someone is supporting something you hate, it's rational to have a problem with them.

[identity profile] glansbilde.livejournal.com 2011-03-27 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
But that's were you're wrong. Believing in a God does not mean supporting ANYTHING. There are plenty of religious people who are not part of organazied religion. Besides I can think of various people that I like despite not agreeing with every single opinion they have ever had. Of course you can like someone while not liking what they like. or else it's like saying that if I hate the Twilight books I have to hate everyone who ever liked them. That makes no sense.

[identity profile] avatarmn.livejournal.com 2011-03-27 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Faith in God supports irrational, illogical thinking. Believing shit that is on the scale of very unlikely to provably false is pretty much everything that's wrong with American political discourse and public policy, for example. Its doing tremendous damage, and I fucking hate it for that. And I think believing that faith is the highest virtue is largely to blame. When you value what you have faith in to the contradiction of what there is evidence of, you'll make the wrong decision every time, and people will suffer. So yeah, believing in God can come without religion, but it supports faith very strongly, and dogma is half of why religion is so bad but faith itself is the other half.

[identity profile] anivad.livejournal.com 2011-03-28 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
"Faith in God supports irrational, illogical thinking."

That depends on the reason for belief.

[identity profile] leafing.livejournal.com 2011-03-27 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
If the rapist didn't rape, would you still hate them?

[identity profile] avatarmn.livejournal.com 2011-03-27 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
::eyeroll:: I guess you got me there. And if the religious person didn't religion I wouldn't hate them, either.