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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-03-30 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1548 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1548 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 095 secrets from Secret Submission Post #221.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2011-03-30 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
No, look. It is a privilege. I am an ESL, so the word used to rub me the wrong way as well, but think of it as a pure antonym to "unprivileged". If become disabled, like I did, you know that your old self had a privilege that your new self does not; in my case, not being in pain every day. How often do you wake up and thing, "God, no agony, what a brilliant day!" Probably never, unless you are recovering from toothache or something.

So, whether you say it or not, if you are able-bodied, you have able-bodied privilege. It's as simple as that.

[identity profile] no-one-specific.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Just stepping in to say that recently, because of all the SJ bs that I've been seeing online and stuff, I consider privilege to have a negative connotation.

but think of it as a pure antonym to "unprivileged"
However, I definitely agree with that, if it's used in that sense. More often than not it isn't, though, from what I've seen--I've seen it used to attack people and to try to make people feel guilty and to dismiss them from arguments because 'they're privileged so they don't know what they're talking about'

(Anonymous) 2011-03-30 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
As have I, but that is a case of the concept being used to bully. If a hammer is used to murder someone, that does not make hammers any less useful! The concept has been a great deal of use to lots of people, especially people who have to overcome other difficulties in life. Please do not dismiss the whole idea because of the nasty actions of a few proponents. :)

[identity profile] no-one-specific.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Still, it carries a negative connotation. I definitely see what you mean, but I still have to say that more often than not, because of the way it's been used, calling someone privileged can be taken offensively.

(All IMHO, obviously...)

(Anonymous) 2011-03-30 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Just as "lucky" can carry a negative connotation, or it can be a simple factual description. You're an intelligent human being; you don't need to reject a word because it's nuanced, for crying out loud.

[identity profile] hikari87.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem in this specific forum lies not in the word itself, or even its use in general; you've raised some very good points, but in this comm, it's almost always used as a guilt hammer to try and shut people up :/

(Anonymous) 2011-03-30 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
so basically you've been told to shut up

and now, you're mad about it

[identity profile] no-one-specific.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Good, you can read!

(Anonymous) 2011-03-31 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, not unless you've been brainwashed by the SJ crowd.

I may be better off in some respects and worse off in others than the next person. That doesn't make me privileged, while it may make make "luckier" than the other person in one particular respect.

Otherwise, we could say the disabled person about whom this secret is made, is privileged while the OP is not - in the happiness arena, for example.

[identity profile] anivad.livejournal.com 2011-04-01 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know anyone in the SJ crowd who denies the existence of intersectionality.

Every person has some privileges and doesn't have others. Not having privileges in some areas doesn't erase having privileges in other areas.