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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-05 03:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #1554 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1554 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Knut The Polar Bear]


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03.
[Invader Zim]


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04.
[Can't Hardly Wait]


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05.
[Arthur C. Clarke's Odyssey series]


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06.
[Robert Knepper/Prison Break]


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07.
[The Prophecy, Christopher Walken]


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08.
[Skins]


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09.
[In a Fix, on TLC]


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10.
[UK TV/Radio]


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11.
[Homestuck and Puella Magi Madoka Magica]


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12.
[Shameless US]


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13.
[Young Justice]


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14.
[Rose of Versailles]


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15.
[Dr. Horrible]


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16.
[Tangled]


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17.
[Homestuck]


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18.
[Severus Snape/Lolita KompleX]


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19.
[Alien loves Predator]


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20.
[TFL]


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21.
[Regular Show]


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22.
[Summer Wars]


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23.
[Glee]


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24.
[Ace Attorney]


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25.
[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]


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26.
[Fringe]


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27.
[k-pop]


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28.
[Stargate SG1, Legend of the Seeker, Rizzoli & Isles]


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29.
[Sailor Moon]


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30.
[The Spoony Experiment]


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31.
[MSLN]


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32.
[Todd In The Shadows/Infomania]


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33.
[Roman Polanski and Woody Allen]



Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 120 secrets from Secret Submission Post #222.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - not English ].
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[identity profile] leafing.livejournal.com 2011-04-05 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I heard about him dying, but I didn't know there was a video of it. That's kind of creepy and sad.

[identity profile] xelestri.livejournal.com 2011-04-05 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't necessarily think it's creepy someone took the video; they were just filming what they thought was going to be a normal day at the zoo.

I did see a comment on one that said it was basically amazing his mother "knew" this an abandoned him at birth though. :/

[identity profile] leafing.livejournal.com 2011-04-05 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah, I figured it was a coincidental capture but it does strike me as a bit odd that it's apparently been circulated around so much. It seems like that would be the sort of thing most would go "oh hell no" at and sort of hide it and try to never think about it again. But I guess at the same time it was newsworthy.

I dunno.

[identity profile] xelestri.livejournal.com 2011-04-05 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I guess some big news agency put it up, then took it down due to complaints, but the internet started passing it around out of morbid curiosity, I think.

[identity profile] clau019.livejournal.com 2011-04-05 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That's ridiculous. His mother abandoning him is quite common for animals in captivity. There's no way she could've foreseen this.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-05 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't be surprised if it was the reason his mom abandoned him. It's quite common for animals to abandon their young if there is something 'not quite right' with it. They seem to be able to sense these things better than humans can.

[identity profile] clau019.livejournal.com 2011-04-05 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
They believe that he died from an infection that caused his brain to swell. Please explain how his mother predicted he'd get an infection at the age of four.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-06 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the deployment of your internet biology degree, Smuggy McSmuggerpants.

First of all, they don't know exactly what caused the bear's encephalitis. "Infection" is really only a guess. Second, the vet who performed the necropsy thought that it might have been going on for a while.

Now, I'm not an expert on bear biology. I do research on people. But there's a number of things that could have caused congenital encephalitis or an encephalitis-like condition. He could have been borne with a congenital virus, he could have been borne with a suppressed immune system that caused him to develop the bear equivalent of progressive leukoencephalopathy (if there is one), or he could have been infected with a tickborne disease. Fact is, animals abandon or sometimes kill their young all the time, and it's often because they sense something the matter with the animal.

So while we may never know the exact cause of the enceph that killed Knut, it's entirely possibly his mother knew there was something wrong with him when he was born and decided it wasn't worth the energy expenditure to feed and protect him. I'm not saying it's likely, but it's definitely possible.

[identity profile] clau019.livejournal.com 2011-04-06 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
First of all, make that a real degree. Second, you're not the only researcher here, and third there's no need to call names.

When animals are in captivity, they experience a lot of stress, causing them to behave in ways that they wouldn't in the wild. Some species refuse to eat, for example. Mothers abandoning their offspring is common.

You're right that we might never know the exact cause of death. But I simply can't be convinced by saying that she "sensed" something. It's simply not enough for me, that's all.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-06 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I called you a joking name because you were pretty rude to someone who was trying to explain something to you in a very kind way.

You're right that animals in captivity can indeed behave differently because they often lack proper behavioral imprinting. In my zeal I forgot that Knut's mother was also a zoo animal. However, if you don't believe that animals can sometimes pretentious-airquote "sense" when their offspring are unfit, I think you should go back and read some literature. It's basically one hundred percent a certainty.

[identity profile] clau019.livejournal.com 2011-04-06 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
You're calling me petty and then say things like pretentious-quote? I use quotes because it helps me express things better. If you don't like that, that's not my problem.

I don't like the word "sense" because it seems to allude to some sort of sixth sense phenomena. Of course animals can, for example, tell that their offspring smell different, if such were the case. But the word sense is not a good one because it's not precise and doesn't define anything. It's basically saying that they "just know", which is something that cannot be proven and therefore unscientific.