[ SECRET POST #1555 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1555 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[maskitheclown.livejournal.com]

I really don't see how one is better than the other. He would die for both of them. He follows John's orders like the gospel, but he feels more for Sam. So they are both equally fucked up. (And they would/did die for him, so, y'know.)
The whole point of that pairing, both of them, is in how fucked up it is, and if anyone thinks it's not, whoa.

The idea of John's selfishness probably comes from the fact that he left his 10yo son alone with his baby brother and then blamed him when a mythical creature attacked and he couldn't shoot it, thus turning his son into an obedient little soldier.
I don't think John was a horrible abusive monster, but he was definitely selfish and consumed by his grief and fear.

[no-one-specific.livejournal.com]

I haven't watched the series for awhile, but I didn't think of John as intentionally selfish; I thought he was just put into a craptastic situation where he had no idea what to do, so he did everything in his power to try to make the best for his sons? Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I remember/interpreted it...

[(Anonymous)]

He follows John's orders like the gospel, but he feels more for Sam.
That might be where OP is coming from though? That they're both fucked up and sick and unhealthy, but John/Dean has more of a confined fucked up dimension to it? Dean's ability to keep it together seems a bit more possible than with Sam, where even in canon everything starts to spill all over eventually. That's what I guess anyway.

Both give me the hebejebes.

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

I can see how people would call John out on the mistakes he made as a father, but selfish? It's not like he left his kids alone because he wanted to party, but because he wanted to help people who were in imminent danger. And pretty much everything that man did in his life - including all the things people call him selfish for - he did because he thought he was either protecting them, or teaching them to protect themselves. I'd understand people blaming John for a lot of things, but the one thing he isn't is selfish.