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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-06 03:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #1555 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1555 ⌋

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2011-04-06 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I think it comes down to the power deferential, OP. People don't like father son relationships because the child is in an extremely subservient role usually. To me, John and Dean have dialed that up to eleven. I mean, if it was a D/S relationship, than perhaps that would make more sense, but if you're saying a equal relationship, then no way is that less fucked up than Dean/Sam. I also think that in later seasons, hell at the end of Season 3, that the show was saying that Dean wasn't happy with John, but he could never express it until John was dead and he had made the deal, which is not healthy at all. People get selfish and cold-hearted from the fact that he didn't even call his sons back when one of them was dying. Dying. The whole of the first season was him chasing the demon. For his sons, yes. But also despite them, which is something in his parenting that people would have a problem with.

Dean and Sam express displeasure with each other. Dean has a lot of power in that relationship. I would say an equal amount, frankly, though I could see how this could be debated in the first 2 seasons. But season 3 clearly show that Sam is as fucked up about Dean as Dean is about Sam. It seems like they have more of an even playing field. But even then, Dean's obsession with Sam is partly his dad's fault. Also, Dean's made it clear that he can't be very happy without Sam, with or without his dad. That's why people might see it as less fucked up.

Also, many kids practically raised their younger siblings, particularly children of hard-working, stress-out, poor single mothers. However, the dynamic isn't equal to a parent child relationship. It's more equal to a decade older sibling to a decade younger sibling relationship. You can't judge them the same.

[identity profile] sobrecogimiento.livejournal.com 2011-04-07 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Everything you just said. I cannot put it better.