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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-07 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1556 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1556 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-07 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I really hope no one gets mad at me for saying, but those terms really confuse me.

English is my third language so I'm not even really sure how they are used...they never were taught to me as English. Help?

(Anonymous) 2011-04-07 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
they are a way of refering to a person without using gender kind of... sorry if thats confusing i only half know what i'm talking about

[identity profile] ashley marquardt (from livejournal.com) 2011-04-07 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hir and Zhey?

Both are terms used by some people instead of her/his to talk about someone who's gender-neutral or gender-unknown. (At least, that's the way I was taught). In this case the OP doesn't know/doesn't mind the character's gender-identity, so they used gender-neutral words to describe them.

I hope this helps. ^^

(I didn't learn about those terms until three weeks ago, and English is my first language so you're not alone).

[identity profile] yui-hime.livejournal.com 2011-04-08 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I think they're non-gendered personal pronouns, though that's not something that comes up with native speakers, so don't feel alone in your confusion.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-08 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Basically, English doesn't have any convenient pronouns to use when you're talking about a single person of unknown gender, so someone made some up and now a handful of people are using them all over the Internet, hoping they'll catch on.

To be clear: They are not real words. The reason you haven't heard of them is that most native speakers haven't, either. The usual thing someone would say in this case would be either "he or she" (formal) or "they" (informal, technically wrong, but very common).
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[identity profile] ryntha-doghare.livejournal.com 2011-04-08 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
However, "he or she" usually indicates that the person is either male or female, but this might not be so - they might identify as being neither, or both, which is why people usually use "they" or "ze/sie/ve/e" in order to allow for the person possibly being outside of the "male/female" binary.

/2 cents