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⌈ Secret Post #1556 ⌋

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I'm a sucker for minor characters, so I couldn't help but put some thought into him. And this is coming from a major Tara fan. I watched his death scene with bated breath when it aired, and even as a shallow teenager, the skin-removal had me sit back and go 'Wow, that wasn't justified'. He was a bastard, but it was all situational, little boy mistakes, spurred on by a fragile ego and a temper. Season 6 is ALL about humanity. Buffy regaining her humanity after death, Spike struggling with the humanity of love. Xander and Anya's tragically human mistakes in their relationship. Willow losing her humanity to magic. And the Trio represent how carelessly evil the products of society can be. They lived in a fantasy world, and being super-villains [in an entirely fictional, above-the-law comic book sense], gave them license to ignore the consequences. Andrew spurred Warren on to kill Buffy because he was just seeing the fight as an end-game confrontation, not actual deadly combat. And he later kills Jonathan for acceptance and friendship from someone he KNEW wasn't his dead friend. Its crazy that a couple of tears from Andrew can exonerate him in many fan's eyes, but just how scared and foolish Warren is half the time isn't even registered.

SORRY. I keep going off about him. In any case, I don't expect anyone to add him to their favorite character list, but... I don't know, Joss Whedon isn't a perfect creator, but he is usually pretty specific with his characterization, and people seem to ignore some of what he does. No one on Buffy ever asks 'WHY', especially in later seasons. They treated Andrew like dirt, and never once tried to understand why he would do what he did until 'Storyteller', and because Buffy and co. write off certain villains as 'BAD', the audience often doesn't look deeper.

I think everyone on Buffy is worth another look, especially as we grow older.

Feel free to keep going on about him, actually. Like I said, it's making me think and you're brining up valid points. I've never thought of Warren as scared before, but he really was. I just, dunno, couldn't get past the "built a girlfriend" and how icky that was, even with Tara's comment about how lonely he must have been. Hah, shallow teenager sums it up there, I guess.

The skin removal was fascinating for me, and I had the exact same thought (wasn't justified) but I never thought about it in terms of what was justifiable punishment for what Warren did, but what Willow wasn't justified to do, if that makes any sense at all.

Honestly, though, I guess I stopped seriously analyzing the characters around the time the whole Faith thing was blowing up. That's when I realized that I didn't really like the main characters, in large part because of what you pointed out--their tendency to never ask WHY and just write a certain villain off as BAD.

But you know, you're right, and I'm pulling out all my DVDs now. Joss has created some amazing characters, and I think it's time I take a look at them again.

The skin removal was fascinating for me, and I had the exact same thought (wasn't justified) but I never thought about it in terms of what was justifiable punishment for what Warren did, but what Willow wasn't justified to do, if that makes any sense at all.

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