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⌈ Secret Post #1556 ⌋

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My final say, and then I think I need to block this site so I don't revisit for further largely useless commentary: I think, when Warren is first introduced, he's played and written as someone almost worth knowing. He's obviously smart, and has the best social skills of the three, and seems to have had a genuinely good report with the other two. He's a jerk, and his fast-talking has ulterior motive written all over it, but he's kind of magnetic. It's understandable why Jonathan and Andrew might gradually fall into step behind him, given how they themselves function. He's like a ... mirror world Xander, who has replaced good nature with entitled genius. As the season progresses, he becomes less friendly, a little more intense. It's clear that the worth of a human life is judged on a case by case basis, and his whole demeanor changes as it becomes less about trained gorillas and more about power and survival.

He was repeatedly kicked when he was down, and then when he got a taste of normal life [college, a beautiful girlfriend], his lonely mistake April came back to haunt him, bringing the Slayer in tow. And Katrina left him. And in the end, he couldn't even clean up his own mess, Buffy did it, all the time looking down on him for his creation. Even Spike, repeatedly breaking into his house to demand favors of him, pushes him down. He's just so pathetic. Someone above commented on how they felt Adam Busch's opinion of the character was really reaching, but I can't say I disagree with him. Even sociopaths have degrees of emotional disconnect, they're not all axe murderers. Warren knew right from wrong, but the urge to please anybody but himself just disintegrated. He is definitely worse off by the Season's close, and I think the transformation is really obvious.

And in the end, he couldn't even clean up his own mess, Buffy did it, all the time looking down on him for his creation. Even Spike, repeatedly breaking into his house to demand favors of him, pushes him down.

I think that is what ultimately pushed Warren over the edge, to be honest, the fact that he never had control over how his life progressed (in his past when he was a social outcast, and then later with Buffy and the Scoobies constantly stepping in). At the very least, his desire to gain control, to be in charge of his own destiny for once, was a huge contributing factor to his downward spiral.

I mean, Warren is pretty much to blame for what happened between him and Katrina. I think he believes he could have handled the Aprilbot fiasco on his own, keeping his relationship with Katrina intact all the while putting April in decommission, but since Buffy interfered and took the situation out of his (perceived) control, he could easily put the blame on Buffy and make himself believe that it was Buffy who caused him to lose his girlfriend and eventually kill her. This set the stage for resentment to sink in, and ultimately, the desire for revenge. If Buffy could just waltz into his life and ruin his affairs, he could do the same to Buffy. And more than that, he would attempt to even the playing field by drawing up schemes that would take away her power, or in other words, her strength and her control (thus giving himself power and control, by proxy).

I think it's pretty clear through his actions that Warren has a problem dealing with strong women. He hates them, even, for possessing strength in the first place, when he himself has so little, despite his wits and intellect. He probably could have been a pretty capable inventor, or engineer, or something in society -- he probably could have had a successful career, even with his malicious streak (because really, there are tons of malicious people in the working world), but he let his emotions and inferiority complex fester to a point where they ultimately led him down a path of negative consequence and no good behavior. And death. That's a big one.

It's all rather tragic, actually.

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