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Which parallel universe version of Israel is that? Israel is very multi-ethnic, and none of those restrictions are true in the slightest... Try going to Israel and looking around instead of making baseless and ridiculous claims.

did you hear the one about the Arab man that got put in jail for having sex with a Jewish woman? Apparently she was horrified to learn, weeks later, she'd accidentally had consensual sex with a filthy ay-rab and reported him for rape because he had the gall to have a vaguely Jewish name and didn't volunteer unprompted his ethnic status. Only in Israel.

did you hear the one about the hippie babysitter that freaked out on LSD and put the baby in the oven?

did you hear the one about the white woman that got in the elevator with a black man and hit the floor when he said "Down, lady!" but it turned out he was actually a celebrity and was talking to his dog whose name was Lady?

did you hear the one about the guy who wakes up in the hotel bathroom and the girl he was with the night before is missing and so is his kidney?

Oh, I know: did you hear the one about the jerkoff who told lots of antisemitic lies anonymously on Livejournal and then actually thought people would believe more of them when the first ones he told were debunked? I sure heard that one.

Sadly, the case in the comment you replied to actually happened, though it's nowhere near as cut and dry as the above anon made it seem.

A non-Jewish man told a Jewish woman he was indeed Jewish, and secured her consent by deception. The fact that Jewish woman was racist shouldn't figure into the fact that she was duped into having sex with the man. Story here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/21/arab-guilty-rape-consensual-sex-jew)

Thank you for the link. I've been watching this thread, and the linkage is interesting and highly relevant to my current edumacation. ^_^

No problem, glad I could help. It's a sad day when you have to choose between supporting a rapist or a racist...

Yep... That sums it all up right there. (-_-)'

Well, let's see. There was such a man, except for that:

Updated | Thursday | 12:56 p.m. A married Arab man who lied to a Jewish woman to get her to sleep with him — telling her that he was a single Jew interested in a long-term relationship — was convicted of rape in a Jerusalem court on Tuesday for the consensual sex the couple engaged in two years ago.

So while the conviction on rape charges is bullshit, and while it might be indicative of racism in the society, your version is -- I don't even.

The facts of the Palestinian occupation and the racism in Israeli society are bad enough without making up horrifying lies. Just so we're clear, specifically:

but the second. If you are a non-Jew and live in Israel you cannot call yourself Israeli

False.

have to wear clothes to mark you out as arabic

I don't actually have any idea where you got this.

can't live in most of the country (only in a small enclosed areas deprived of power and medicines)

Incredibly false. While most Palestinians who claim Palestinian national identity live under such conditions, there are no laws restricting the purchase of property on religious grounds. Racism certainly plays a part in property ownership, just as it does in every country, but you're erasing the real problem by claiming a false and easily refutable one.

have racial laws prevent you from doing lots of jobs

... What? I guess because of the military? I don't -- what?

are subject to daily harassment from the police and/or special security service who have the right to detain you indefinitely for no reason and will not defend you if "honest" citizens stone you in the street

Uh -- what famous case of Israelis stoning Palestinians in Israel are you talking about here, exactly?? Because the rock-throwing was on the other side. Israeli settlers have committed acts of aggression against Palestinian people living in the West Bank, and Google tells me some of that involved rocks, but here's the text of the article:

"Israeli settlers on Monday stoned Palestinian homes at a West Bank village where troops hunted those behind a grisly attack on a settler family, Palestinian officials said.

Palestinian security officials said hundreds of settlers, some masked, rallied on the eastern edge of Awarta village, near Nablus, and some hurled stones at houses there.

Witnesses inside the village told AFP one Palestinian was injured when a number of settlers broke into his property and beat him.

It was not clear whether Israeli soldiers operating inside the village intervened. An army spokesman said the settlers had a permit to demonstrate and he was unaware of any violent incident there. By late evening the village was quiet, the Israeli military and Palestinians told AFP."

So basically, in a war zone, settlers probably committed (unjust) violence in response to an attack?? That doesn't mean that in the streets of Tel Aviv Israeli citizens can just commit hate crimes whenever they want.

can have your land confiscated at any time for Israeli citizens to build on for living room you know all this sounds so familiar for some reason.

Yeah, it does sound familiar, because you've confused the facts of the Palestinian occupation with the facts of the Holocaust.

Thank you for dealing with this. I was so disgusted by the outright lies in that comment that I didn't know how to respond without smashing my keyboard. You put it much better than I would have been able to.

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