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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-09 03:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #1558 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1558 ⌋

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Re: I relate to this far too much. tl;dr but -

[identity profile] georgeslymaniv.livejournal.com 2011-04-10 09:31 am (UTC)(link)
That's a really mean thing to say. Maybe they are having a tough time financially, but to say that they fucked their lives up? I don't think having a baby means you are grown up, but it certainly changes your life and places a lot of responsibility on you. At that point you become responsible for another life. Some people don't step up to that responsibility. But having to make do with less money is not fucking up your life.

Re: I relate to this far too much. tl;dr but -

(Anonymous) 2011-04-10 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, looking at my cousin who got pregnant at 15, or my other cousin who had four kids by 25...yeah, I'd say fucking up their lives is a pretty good way of describing what they did. And financial matters are only one small part of that. Money, while important, isn't everything, and it's certainly not the only way of measuring a successful life. In fact, considering I'm poor as hell, it's not even the first thing I think of when contemplating how very happy I am I didn't go down the same path they did.
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Re: I relate to this far too much. tl;dr but -

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-04-10 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, looking at my cousin who got pregnant at 15, or my other cousin who had four kids by 25...yeah, I'd say fucking up their lives is a pretty good way of describing what they did.

I'm sure thinking in those terms is great for those children! They're nothing more than a "fuck up" to you I guess?

Also LOL @ "poor people can't have children" -- so what, only middle class and rich people should have kids? I'm just baffled that this mindset still exists, even among people who consider themselves "liberal"

Re: I relate to this far too much. tl;dr but -

(Anonymous) 2011-04-10 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course not. Those kids are anything but fuck-ups, and I treat them no different than the cousins and cousins kids born to married couples in their late 20s/early 30s. They're not to blame for their parents' poor decisions (and that's true for any kids whose parents make poor decisions, regardless of how old they were when the kids were born). Do you not understand the difference between "someone fucked up their life" and "a completely different person, who may or may not be affected by that first someone, is a fuck-up"?

"poor people can't have children"
Please point out where I said this, because I didn't. And judging by the number of poor people who do have children (and do just fine by them), I'd look like an idiot if I did. The previous poster said: But having to make do with less money is not fucking up your life. I took issue with this statement that people are claiming having kids = fucking up your life because you then have less money. I don't think this is a good representation of what many people who are in favor of waiting for children are saying at all. I have made other decisions in my life (to go to graduate school, for example) that have resulted in me having much less money than most people my age. Many people, myself included, would not consider this fucking up my life, even though it results in the exact same consequence the previous commenters noted. While money is a factor in everything we all do, that's not what I consider to be the most important things lost when someone has a child at too young an age, or a measure of a successful life. I also said that financial matters are only one small part of [why I felt my cousins hadn't made the best decisions in life]. You're the one that made this all about money and classism, by putting words in my mouth.