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⌈ Secret Post #1562 ⌋

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There are a LOT of throw-away lines in Glee... I sometimes wonder about other storylines as well :P

Write it. Or request it somewhere. I'm sure there's someone somewhere who agrees with you.

I don't watch the show, though my wife does. I can say those lines do make me feel weird about that being a throwaway gag on a show that prides itself on facing issues.

Mr Ryerson being a pedophile and it being played for laughs is one of the worst things about Glee. I want to gouge out my eyes when he shows up on screen.

Being attracted to teenagers =/= pedophilia. Just saying.

Not that sexually harrasing students is much better or anything. But they're very distinctly different.

Oh, I'm sorry, I don't know the exact term in English - here it's "éphèbophile" (I think! Don't use it that often). What would be the right term then?

I'm not a native speaker either, but I'd probably just say sexual predator or creep or something in this case since the person he harrassed was most likely over the age of consent which is 16 in Ohio. Or maybe there is a more specific term. I really don't know.

ephebophilia (catch-all term for sexual attraction to late adolescents) and pederasty (older man to adolescent male specific) are the English equivalents.

I just saw it as paranoia and homophobia. Like: A gay man who probably harrassed a student touched my shoulder = MOLESTING MEEEE!

Not that he doesn't have reason to be suspicious, but I always took it as Puck being overdramatic and looking back like; "Now that you mention it... He did accidentally touch my shoulder once. And I AM super hot. HE MUST HAVE TRIED TO FONDLE MEE."

Edited 2011-04-13 20:34 (UTC)

Well, actually, Sandy Ryerson does in fact like teenage boys.

Yes, I know that. Which is why I wrote;

Not that he doesn't have reason to be suspicious

I am well aware that he (probably, as it was never made completely clear) likes teenage boys. Point still remains though; I think Puck is being paranoid and overdramatic.

Edited 2011-04-13 20:55 (UTC)

He was caressing that boy in the pilot, though. It was only his stomach, but it was still creepy. But I don't think Puck was saying he bad touched him, just that he touched him a lot.

I know. But we don't know if that wasn't just Ryerson being platonically affectionate in a creepy way. It really isn't stated anywhere that he really is a sexual predator so it's still very much up for interpratation. I actaully find it very possible for Rachel to have made that up and exaggerated it for her own gain, personally.

I can agree to that. The secret seems to imply that they think Sandy molested him or something, though.

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meadowphoenix - 2011-04-13 22:28 (UTC) - Expand

Glee picks and chooses which storylines to take seriously and which are jokes. Like how Sue's violence is viewed as funny, while Karofsky's as serious. I personally wouldn't want to see this storyline explored because, frankly, I don't think Mark Salling has the acting chops to pull it off (personal opinion, he still seems like a cool dude and has a good voice).

I'm sure you could find some fic for this, though. And if not, prompt it at the angst meme and maybe it'll get filled?

See--ahhh, that's actually the type of thing I like about the show. I like it best when it's super-inappropriate and snarky and satirical. Like, in my TV-MA, cable-channel version of the show, they'd totally go further with those jokes/that idea. But instead they just pull back and then get all sweet & cutesy, and it's basically never good. But as the show actually is...yeah, I see your point.

Maybe I'm just not remembering the pilot well enough, but I don't remember Ryerson actually being inappropriate with a student (I forget the word that's essentially pedophilia for teens instead of kids). I seem to remember that whole scene looking like Rachel being an opportunistic, lying bitch. It's not like she's never lied to get things to go her way before (sending the competition to a crack house, anyone?).

Like I said, maybe I missed something (I'm not exactly watching anymore) but I only ever got creepy!stalker!dealer guy vibe from him. Which doesn't exactly make him a class act, or anything, but still.

That's definitely how the pilot read to me. Then he comes back later and says that it was the best thing to happen to him. It's why I'm completely unable to watch the show.

I think Rachel exsagerated the truth because Hank was definately unconfrotable in that situation. But it's not pedophilia, mostly because Hank was definately a senior.

Though Rachel was definitely being opportunistic and sly in the pilot, they did show Ryerson touching a student in an inappropriate way, and that was what Rachel witnessed.

Okay, I just rewatched the scene on Netflix, and it IS more on the side of inappropriateness than I was remembering. (But mostlyI just realized how shippable Finn and Kurt are and saw a bit of one-sided Finn/Schu that I'd never noticed before. Seriously, boy can pensively gaze like no other.)

It's sort of like how Kurt's bullying story is treated as serious (which it is, bullying and death threats are never okay), but when the rest of the club is bullied it's not treated as a huge thing. Glee admittedly for me is like addictive candy, but half the shit on the show doesn't make any sense.

I feel the same way!

http://community.livejournal.com/glee_angst_meme/4263.html?thread=6518439#t6518439

rec?

Fuck yes. Anything and everything that Kasey writes is AMAZING.