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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-16 04:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #1565 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1565 ⌋

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[identity profile] miezen.livejournal.com 2011-04-19 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
This is true, but Celty is not a lazy person. She could've spruced up an abandoned building and been fine with that; I'm sure a dullahan would be used to less than luxurious living arrangements. She was willing to live in the cargo hold of a ship, after all. If she really had a problem with Shinra she could've gone somewhere else and I think she probably would've.

And really, I do not see it as manipulation. It was merely a suggestion; ultimately it was Celty's decision as to whether or not she agreed with him. He never actually stopped her from finding her head. He withheld information from her, yes, and that wasn't cool but people aren't perfect and they do act selfishly sometimes, and Shinra could have made much worse decisions.

Also, it should be noted that a lot of Celty's reasoning for wanting her head back had to do with curiosity. Personality-wise she was happy with herself. She was happy with the friends she had and with being with Shinra. Sure, finding her head may have been a good thing for her, but it could also have resulted in a complete change in her personality. Deep down, Celty is a good person who wants to do good things and help people, but what is a dullahan? A bringer of death. Celty getting her head back could have changed her into the monster that various extras continually assumed she was due to her being headless. She wouldn't have wanted that.

But my point is that I see it as it being a self acceptance message. It calls into question why she wanted it. I think it's meant to be a more abstract parallel to things like this that real people go through. People who want to be taller, shorter, have bigger breasts, be blonde, have a smaller nose, be thinner (strictly because of looks), etc. There is someone out there who would love a person with these flaws for who they are, just like Shinra loves Celty even though she's a dullahan without a head.

[identity profile] fygar-dragon.livejournal.com 2011-04-21 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
But she didn't have a problem with Shinra, when he wasn't going "hey celty you know that head you desperately want, you should probably stop searching for it because i don't like the idea of you having it".

It wasn't a suggestion. To quote my friend, he knew where it was THE ENTIRE TIME but didn't bother telling her, while still going on all come ooonn, celtyyyy, you only need meeee. and implying that she should give up because she'd never find it or whatever.

He was trying to stop her from finding the thing she said she wanted so badly, just because HE liked her better without it.

my computer is super slow so I'll reply more later