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fandomsecrets2011-04-23 03:53 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2011-04-23 03:53 pm
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Re: Not OP but interested
One of the main factors is how you want to draw/paint. I like stuff with line in it, so there are certain artists I look at more than others, but I have good recommendations for both kinds of art. The good news is that generally speaking, they're the same foundations! Yay!
Now I like the linear stuff (think Disney) so a bunch of people I personally look at are:
Arthur Rackham and Edmund Dulac for older stuff, and Claire Wendling for newer stuff.
The Art of Tangled is great for this if you can get your hands on it as it has tons of stuff from Glen Keane. (Almost any of the Disney art books are good for this and you can get Hunchback and Pocahontas art books for really cheap now/stalking it for a month or so).
I really like the gesture so for that I'd recommend checking out the Walt Stanchfield Drawn to Life books. They are a guide to what's important to think about when drawing for animation.
For the more rendered approach two of the more modern guys I'd look at are Frank Frazetta, Donato Giancola, and James Gurney (of Dinotopia). I've chosen the last two because they're really good at teaching too. Donato has a great "How-to" section on his website, and James Gurney has a couple of good books showing how he does it here. Donato has a DVD out that has him going through an entire painting from start to finish, and even the trailer is really helpful. Note his process - most of the best artist go through it from thumbnail, to reference, to pencil, to painting.
Okay, as for actually drawing something, the first thing you need to do is draw from a model. That can be a real person or a good photo (they have artists stock photos even on deviantart). If you're just starting, I recommend something with a strong light source - it's easier to see form and shape. A real model is best if you can find one, but drawing from a photo is so much better than drawing from your head.
The important part to remember about the figure is that it's all made of relatively simple shapes, even though it's complex as a construction. I recommend looking into Hogarth or Bridgman for human anatomy (they are quite good at explaining. Andrew Loomis is great too (though I haven't used him as much), but his books are out of print, but are kept in circulation online. Always remember to draw big forms before small ones. Get the whole person down before you think about adding eyes, fingers, etc. You'll be able to pick up any problems in the overall figure first, you'll get the pose better, and you won't spend hours doing a hand before you realize it needs to move to the left two inches.
For animals, I highly recommend The Art of Animal Drawing. It's by a former Disney animator and you can tell he really knows what he's doing.
ConceptArt has some really great advice too.
If there's something in particular you're interested in, please let me know (I may have more resources for that). If you're interested in cartoons, it's crazy, but drawing the real figure helps a ton. Another thing is find a good artist to copy from (usually a professional to some degree) and just try to copy their work for practice - see how they do it!
Re: Not OP but interested
Another thing is find a good artist to copy from (usually a professional to some degree) and just try to copy their work for practice - see how they do it!
I've tried to do that, but it's just too overwhelming when I'm just starting. I feel like I have to do too many things at once, and I don't even know in which order it would be best to do them! It's just discouraging... I need some bases first, you know?
So anyway, thanks for all this! Maybe I'll be sending you some not-too-awful fanart in a couple of years ;) Any particular request :P ?
Re: Not OP but interested
I completely understand! I'd recommend doing simple still lifes and figures first until you learn some hand-eye coordination and get a general idea of form. Most artists use form even if really stylized (and that's what still lives can teach you at first).
Not a problem! You're welcome to contact me anytime if you have questions/want some critique. :D I swear I'm nice! (You don't need to do fanart, but I like Disney and Avatar (the cartoon)!)
Also, I forgot it before, but I recommend