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fandomsecrets2011-04-23 03:53 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2011-04-23 03:53 pm
[ SECRET POST #1572 ]
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
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Secrets Left to Post: 12 pages, 276 secrets from Secret Submission Post #225.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ].
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"this pairing makes me physically sick"
"I don't think White/Touko could connect with him like Black/Touya could"
". . . any interest in giving girls bedroom eyes."
You didn't explain your reasoning at all -- you just wrote a bunch of things that made it sound like because White/Touko/Whitlea/Hilda has a vagina and boobs, that made you sick and you didn't think N would have any interest in her. Which, I mean, it's your prerogative to think that (if you did), but you have to admit that it sounds extremely yaoi fangirlish, especially since there ARE fangirls that feel that way.
But yeah, my mind jumped IMMEDIATELY to the game canon because that's all I care about in terms of Pokemon, so specification would be wise in the future. ;) Also specify which manga you mean, because Pokemon Special is hardly the only Pokemon manga out there, and it's definitely not the only one dealing with Generation V at the moment.
Because seriously, things can get very out of hand very quick in Pokemon fandom if you don't specify what you're talking about, as I'm sure you've noticed.
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(Anonymous) 2011-04-24 12:13 am (UTC)(link)This fandom really is a beast. o/
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(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 02:28 am (UTC)(link)This fandom really is a beast. o/
You've already been called out on this, but you're really not helping the general tone of fandom by saying that the idea of Touko/N makes you physically ill, but Touya/N is just dandy, because there's enough goddamn misogyny in yaoi fandom as it is.
When I first saw this secret, I thought "well, maybe I'll give this one the benefit of the doubt: maybe the manga made Touko some kind of bratty jerk or something that would explain the reaction." So, I went and read the Pokemon special manga and holy Jesus fuck is your reaction to Touko in the manga overblown. Is she a bratty jerk? Nope! Perfectly nice, normal seeming girl.
Sorry, but despite your explanations I still see your reaction as essentially rooted in misogyny. IMO, it's really fucking pathetic that you're so wrapped up in this that you're hating on a character who seems like a nice girl because she might theoretically hurt N if they were shipped together. You did notice that in the manga, Touya is actually hurting N right now because he's the one actually doing the things that piss N off the most?
And you do realize that unless it's canon, shipping is entirely how you want to write it? I could write N hurting Touko just as easily as Touko hurting N.
I really think you need to step back and take a long hard look at your motivations, OP, because your explanation doesn't ring true and I am just so goddamned sick and tired of seeing people hate on female characters because they might interfere with a yaoi pairing.
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(Anonymous) 2011-04-25 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)