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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-28 07:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #1577 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1577 ⌋


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[identity profile] anthropomorphe.livejournal.com 2011-04-29 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
And yet, nobody seems to care if a male character is portrayed as a bad stereotype of males.

idk. I consider a bad character a bad character and a good character a good character, regardless of gender.

[identity profile] yucari.livejournal.com 2011-04-29 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's because bad stereotypes of males aren't really at risk to perpetuate oppression, since... males aren't oppressed. :|

Though it occurs to me now to think - you know what I never, ever see that I think I would like to see more of? Feminist critique of male characters. Male characters who act in misogynist ways or let their privilege go unchecked and are excused for that in-universe and in the narrative are disgustingly common, and yet nobody seems to think that's worth bothering with. It seems to be simply taken for granted that that's how shit is. I would like to see male characters' feminist or anti-feminist attitudes, and especially how they affect the women around them, examined more.

I mean, maybe everyone is right and it isn't a productive enough exercise to be worth expending words and energy on (that could be put toward slashfic, amirite?), but hey, at least it would be interesting.

[identity profile] anthropomorphe.livejournal.com 2011-04-29 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never really thought of shitty female characters as perpetuating oppression, though. I just thought they were shitty characters that happened to be female.

Male characters who act in misogynist ways or let their privilege go unchecked and are excused for that in-universe and in the narrative are disgustingly common, and yet nobody seems to think that's worth bothering with.

I consider that way more problematic than BOO THIS FEMALE CHARACTER IS SHIT HOW SEXIST.

(that could be put toward slashfic, amirite?)

/stands by yuri flag loyally

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[identity profile] azelmaroark.livejournal.com 2011-04-29 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Male characters who act in misogynist ways or let their privilege go unchecked and are excused for that in-universe and in the narrative

Hi, you just described the plot of Dragonball Z. =/

(And this is me learning yet more about how deep I've internalized misogyny that THIS didn't even occur to me as an option vs screaming about female characters not being {X} enough.)