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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-03 07:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #1582 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1582 ⌋


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[identity profile] kuromitsu.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty tired of people trying to turn England into something he isn't because of 'history.'

Exactly, this. People have preconceptions based on their own perception of history or whatver, and tend to gloss over the fact that ruthless pirate England? was the exact same character who got all weepy when some kid he's never met before called him "oniichan." And then they latch onto "BIG BAD RUTHLESS BRITISH EMPIRE OMG" and forget that from what we've seen he wasn't any different in his empire days.

If people want BIG BADASS RUTHLESS ENGLAND WHO DOMINATES THE SHIT OUT OF EVERYONE they're free to write him but don't pretend it's a better or a more accurate depiction of the character...

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! England has always been a failboat. And even when we see him in his 'badass days,' he's kind of... fail about it. It's cute, and I'm not saying he can't be competent (I certainly believe he can be), but seriously. I mean check out his mad spying skills for another example of not BIG AND BAD. He's also emotional and he gets flustered easily, and he's called the most pitiful character in the cast by Himaruya. I don't support moeblob superuke England, but I do support cute and fail England, and while people are free to write him differently, I wish they wouldn't act as if those who follow how he is in the strips are doing it wrong.

[identity profile] kuromitsu.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I mean, yeah, I suppose the lovestruckness gets taken to the extremes (as with every single pairing in every single fandom ever) but it's not like it's a case of fans forcibly adding these traits to his personality.

And I mean, Badass Pirate England... sits around sipping tea and practicing two-faced diplomacy while his real pirates bully Spain. Yeah, fandom likes to depict him being a big badass pirate, but I don't really remember him doing anything really pirate-y(?? is that a word?) in the actual comics. Not saying he can't be aggressive and forceful (France could tell stories about that), and he's definitely not a doormat, but it's not like OMG BADASS is his default mode as some people like to claim...