[ SECRET POST #1583 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1583 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 83 secrets from Secret Submission Post #226.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 0 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 0 - omgiknowthem ], [ 0 - take it to comments ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

32. http://i53.tinypic.com/2ugc9bt.png

[(Anonymous)]

*yawns*

[wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com]

I think that anyone who believes that someone's writing has to be approved by some arbitrary outside party in order to be called "legitimate" is pretentious..

The only difference between not being published and being published is that someone binds your work all pretty and it goes on the shelves at Barnes and Noble. And a LOT of shit gets published so publishing isn't some stamp of quality.

[(Anonymous)]

Bitter, much.

[wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com]

About? I've never tried to get published. I write strictly as a hobby.

[nota-lone.livejournal.com]

I think most people who throw around the word pretentious are pretty pretentious.

...I just stuck myself in an infinite loop, didn't I?

[judo-creature.livejournal.com]

OH SHI--

[sky-queen3.livejournal.com]

*watches the world blow up* Thanks for dividing by zero. (I've always wanted to say that. :|)

[nota-lone.livejournal.com]

What have I doooone? (Good application of the phrase.)

[mekkio.livejournal.com]

People actually do this?

I would kind of be disappointed if I met a person who proclaimed that he's a published author only for it to turn out that his idea of "publishing" is posting his stories on sites like LJ. It's sort of pyrite publishing. Technically, he is a published author in the text book definition of the word but not in the way the general public thinks of what an actual published author is.

[santagrover.livejournal.com]

l o l

[(Anonymous)]

yes. agreed.

[(Anonymous)]

I fucking agree. It's not like musicians get to put 4 songs on MySpace and say they have a recording contract. Getting published is HARD, maybe harder than the actual writing. I have a degree in creative writing, and a good portion of what we learned is how to get published. Getting a blog or a FanFiction.net account ISN'T difficult. I'm not saying your writing isn't GOOD if you're publishing it on a blog or what-have-you. I personally consider myself a blogger above all else. I'm just saying that publishing is a horse of a different color.

[(Anonymous)]

Agree. Being published implies that the work was put out for public sale (this is based on a few definition of that I looked up.) So publishing implies that money is involved, even if money is not the author's primary concern. That's what I'm getting from my mini research; I'd love to know more if you have additional information. :) So I guess publishing does not mean that someone has more merit or stamp of approval than another, as an above poster implied. And as you said, publishing is hard because you are competing with others. Author and book needs to stand out. The book has to be marketable (and sometimes the author simply isn't finding the right agent, but that's just based on stories I've heard of others.) Publishing is definitely different from posting a story on LJ or FF.net. Far different process.

Interesting topic.

[citrinesunset.livejournal.com]

It's not that difficult to make a book through Lulu, either, but it's still called self-publishing.

I see a difference between saying that you're published and saying you've published something. The former definitely implies that your work has been accepted by a publisher. It's something that's done to you. The latter, to me, implies something you've done yourself.

[flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com]

I see a difference between saying that you're published and saying you've published something.
This. It sounds kind of weird and stuffy but I don't think it's objectionable to just say "I just published the last chapter" instead of "posted" or "updated."

[momentsplinter.livejournal.com]

This.

[doktordeathray.livejournal.com]

I find those people absolutely hilarious.
I also thought this was pretty much unanimous, so it's funny to see butthurt in this comment thread.

[(Anonymous)]

well, etymology considered, publish = make public, so this seems like a perfectly reasonable use of the word to me...

Blame FFN

[delwynmarch.livejournal.com]

Go check on fanfiction.net what they call posting a story.

Got it?

This is not about being pretentious or whatever. It's just about using the term that many, many fanfic writers were introduced to when beginning to post their fanfic on the net - on FFN, more precisely.

Re: Blame FFN

[quamquam20.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I blame FFN for just about everything.

Re: Blame FFN

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. It's what FFN calls it, and it fits the technical definition of the word, so it's not pretentious.

I would always say "post" instead of "publish", because "publish" does imply getting it printed and selling it, but it doesn't mean that "publish" is incorrect.

[quamquam20.livejournal.com]

Me too.

I'm going to start referring to my beta as my editor.

[baaing-tree.livejournal.com]

But Neil Gaiman DID publish his fanfiction! (Sherlock Holmes and HP Lovecraft crossover. "Study in Emerald." You can find it in Fragile Things. You should read it.)

:D *happily misses your point entirely*

[(Anonymous)]

Ours doesn't seem to be a popular opinion... but for what it's worth, I agree with you, OP. As someone who used to write fanfiction and who is now editing a novel I wrote, there is a HUGE difference between writing and posting a fanfiction or even an original story on the Internet, and actually going through the process of getting your work ready for traditional publishing.

I have spent the last three years working on my story. In order to get it published, which I ultimately want to do, I have to edit it (probably more than once), try to get an agent, and providing I eventually get an agent (which could take years or may never happen), we then have to sell it to a publisher. Even if it's sold to a publisher, it's not 100% guaranteed the book is going to be successful.

So... maybe I'm looking a little too hard through my serious-writer goggles right now, and maybe this is going to sound a bit pretentious to a lot of people who've commented... but yeah, I kind of feel like actually trying to get something published, in the traditional sense of the word, generally involves a lot more work than writing and posting a fanfic. Not by any means saying that writing fanfic is somehow inferior to writing original stories, but yeah, I can kind of see the OP's point here. Trying to get a book published is a HUGE commitment and a much bigger amount of work and time than many people think it is. It's not just writing a book and immediately sending it to a publisher. I personally don't mind THAT much when someone says "published" in regards to an online work, but I can see how it could offend some people that something that can take years and years of hard work and dedication is often equated to, like, one-shots that took three hours to post.