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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-04 07:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #1583 ]

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-05 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Can you help explain to me what's the difference between ethnic cleansing and genocide? I've been looking around and finding comparisons between the two terms, but I have yet to find one that really helps me to understand. From what I gather though, both refer to the termination of all people of a specific ethnicity/nationality/religion.

(You don't have to answer if you think the question is too stupid, of course. Just thought I'd try! I'd honestly really like to understand the difference.)

[identity profile] archerstar.livejournal.com 2011-05-05 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Hm. It is kind of hard to differentiate sometimes, because ethnic cleansing does occasionally involve genocide, but by definition, just being forced out of wherever you're living, with the purpose of eliminating your culture from that area is considered ethnic cleansing. Genocide is the intentional elimination of an ethnic group. While ethnic cleansing can involve the elimination of the group, it often refers to the forced relocation of a group out of a region and the destruction of their culture.

When Muammar al-Gaddafi kicked out all of the Italians in Libya in 1970 who'd been living there since 1911 when they colonized, that is an ethnic cleansing. When the British expelled the entire population of Deigo Garcia in the late '60's? Ethnic cleansing.

The Holocaust? Ethnic cleansing and genocide.
What happened in Turkey to the Armenians during WWI? Ethnic cleansing and genocide.

Because they are tied together, on occasion, the terms to get thrown around synonymously but they really aren't. Not entirely.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-05 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you, I totally get what you're saying! So ethnic cleansing is to remove a specific ethnic group from a geographical location, and genocide is one of the methods that is used. So you can have an ethnic cleasing by mass deportation and other methods, while genocide is specifically the method of mass murder. Got it.

[identity profile] iapetusneume.livejournal.com 2011-05-05 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I do agree with your comment, but I also want to throw in that it can sometimes involve men of the oppressing culture getting the women of the persecuted culture pregnant, so as to help dilute the "offensive" blood.

So yeah, it doesn't always involve death.

[identity profile] archerstar.livejournal.com 2011-05-05 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes, definitely. I think that would probably fall under the assimilation aspect of ethnic cleansing, because at the source, the goal is still to eliminate the ethnic group/their culture from the region, since even in places where the people are removed, there is still the effort to assimilate anything left behind. This is just occurring while the people are still there, sadly.

I think a good way to simplify it for people is to say that all genocide is ethnic cleansing but all ethnic cleaning is not genocide, although, of course, it is so much more complicated than that and deserves better explanation. But, for simplicity's sake, that a quick and easy way of putting it.