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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-04 07:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #1583 ]

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-05 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a really casual watcher of TVD but I didn't like Bonnie for the longest time. She was overly controlling and kinda bitchy. The only reason I thought for people to like her was if they hated Damon and liked seeing her cut him down again and again. Then she hooked up with Jeremy and since I find them ADORABLE it's given me a new appreciation for Bonnie. Her attitude has been toned down a bit and I like that too. Bonnie isn't flawless, she was just treated by other characters as though she was.

So can you please tell me why you like her so much? I haven't met anyone who really, really liked her and I'm curious why you do.

For comparison, I like Elena (though I think she's almost painfully young), love Katherine, like Jules and Isobel, adored Lexie (dammit Damon!) and so on. Bonnie was my least favorite character for a while though I'm liking her more now in season two.

[identity profile] ncc-gqmf.livejournal.com 2011-05-05 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't even really know what to say because I really don't understand at all why people dislike Bonnie. Obviously saying she's flawless is hyperbole, but I've always thought she was a strong, fleshed-out character (even when the rest of the show pretty much blew) whose only crime seems to be not jumping onto team "yay vampires!" with everyone else.

I mean, yes, she's a judgmental person, but I like that her struggle is between loving and accepting her friends and judging what they do and who they do it with. I like that she's "bitchy" and "controlling," which to me just reads as being the one person around who knows what's going on and is like, "girl, no."

I mean, I really just don't get it. If your best friend was like, "Oh hey so my boyfriend is a quasi-reformed serial killer who is putting me and everyone we love in danger :D" I think that is a reason to be judgmental!

Beyond that, I liked in the beginning that she had her own stuff going on, and I think she's just grown into this brave, selfless, incredible young woman who is still trying to juggle her love for her friends with the fact that they knowingly do bad things and associate with bad people.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-05 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for writing back. :) And thanks too for being cool about my question. I've got favorite characters who fandom dislikes for strange reasons and when people tell me about their dislike, I'm always "wtf have you even watched the show??" so your patience with my question is pretty awesome.

I think Bonnie turned me off because her dislike was so extreme and heavy, even though she'd gotten to know Stefan before she found out that he's a vampire. Her automatic distrust of Caroline for instance as soon as she found out that Caroline had been turned, even though Caroline had been murderedm she hadn't chosen to become a vampire, and was still Caroline. If Bonnie had grown up fighting vampires, I would have the attitude but she didn't. She didn't know anything about it and came off as very judgmental about stuff she didn't have much insight into.

Yet, anyway.

I don't blame her for disliking Damon or anything, which I know is the reason why some Bonnie haters dislike her. I like Damon as a character but he's DANGEROUS and he only started to change when he realized that that behavior was going to isolate him from the people he loved. When people were letting him get away with it, he had no reason to change. Bonnie's distrust makes sense to me and is a good counter to the passive acceptance of the other characters.

I do like her a lot better now. Most of the characters are a lot more likeable than they were at the start of the first season, imo. Bonnie's development has been one of the most dramatic of any of the characters and I'm looking forward to what happens with her in the future.

[identity profile] ncc-gqmf.livejournal.com 2011-05-05 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Well... again, like, if you think "vampire," your first thought isn't "shiny happy people," it's "merciless killers." I mean, it was sad she distrusted Caroline, but Caroline also killed a guy her first night out, so it's not like Bonnie was wrong to think that she would. And remember, when Stefan and Damon were outed to her, a bunch of people had already died.

For most people, when it comes to vampires, the natural curve is not going from "trust" to "distrust". And I like that Bonnie still doesn't really trust vampires, especially Damon. Like you said, it's a badly-needed counterpart to everyone else, and to me she always has been.