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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-04 07:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #1583 ]

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[identity profile] darlas-mom.livejournal.com 2011-05-05 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)

Rape and shota involve power and privilege, not just historical tragedy.

It's not "just" historical tragedy. Read the comments here. (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/38631337.html) Anti-Roma prejudice and violence is still going on, and in some places still legally enforced. Read the entry and comments here. (http://www.drudge.com/archive/127021/lebanon-censors-anne-franks-diary) Antisemitism is alive and kicking and the law of the land in some places, and so is rather a lot of people's desire to claim the Shoah never even happened. Try out this thread. (http://thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28956) Black people are still subjected to racialized violence, and people still act like it's fake, doesn't matter, or is otherwise worth dismissing. Look at this. (http://cliffordcoonan.dreamhosters.com/blog/?p=359) What living survivors of Nanking and their families still have to deal with. Or this. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/06/15/homophobic-hate-crime-in-_n_52320.html) How homophobia still destroys lives and bodies.

It is real, and it matters, and maybe outsiders using it to get off just isn't okay.

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-06 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
+10 to all of this, almost, except trying to dictate what people are allowed to get off on is pretty shitty no matter how you justify it

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[identity profile] darlas-mom.livejournal.com 2011-05-06 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not trying to dictate, anon. People are going to do what they're going to do. But a lot of people found it necessary to say "what's the difference between this and non-racialized rape, if non-racialized rape's fine and dandy" and "why do you think anyone even cares" and "when are these people going to go away." I offered one set of answers.

Some people don't know who their kink is hurting, because hey, it's just kink, it's fictional, it doesn't mean anyone's endorsing it in real life. (Never mind that fandom still periodically has the fight about whether or not survivors of rape, abuse, etc., are entitled to warning labels to be able to avoid reading it- somehow, no one having this fight remembers that there's plenty of people out there who say this hurts, but you don't have to stop writing it, just be aware of who it hurts when you treat it the same as consensual sex in a community setting.)

Some people know and don't care, as OP observed. So, choose not to care. That's a choice no one's taking away from you- that no one can take away from you. If other people caring bothers you, well...sorry. If we're not entitled to a community where everyone cares, I don't see why others are entitled to one where everyone approves.