[ SECRET POST #1583 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1583 ⌋


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

saying that a woman is too old to play a certain (1) role on TV =/= ageism or misogyny

op said that she's too old to play her younger self. that is, in fact, quite logical. like, for example, sean connery would be too old to play a young james bond and matt smith would make a rather awful toddler!doctor for what I hope are obvious reasons.

[(Anonymous)]

Connery is in his seventies, and played Bond some forty years ago. Smith is almost thirty, it's been over two decades since he was a toddler. Kingston is only two years older now than she was in the Library episodes and yet she is now "too old" to play the same character, and you don't see how this has a misogynistic subtext?

How many women in middle-age are there in action/adventure roles on British television? How often are women criticised for not being young enough, thin enough or pretty enough? In and of itself, this may not be a problematic statement, but it promotes a view that is generally used to attack, condemn and control women.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean she was only two years older when she first reappeared in Doctor Who. I trust you can see the problem in comparing men in decades, and women in a couple of years here?

Matt Smith played a Doctor two hundred years older in Impossible Astronaut. When he plays the Doctor next year, he'll look older then than he does now in Impossible Astronaut. Will the same poster be complaining that continuity is ruined for the Doctor? I doubt it. Women are held to higher standards, and that is misogynistic.

[(Anonymous)]

But isn't Kingston's character supposed to get younger with each passing episode? As in, she should look younger, not older or exactly the same.

When a character is getting younger and still played by the same actor who, in turn, is growing older, pointing out that it's something of a problem isn't misogyny even if the actor is a woman.

I have no idea, DW is the only British action/adventure I follow. Too often, but that's not what was discussed here.

[(Anonymous)]

This is one of those times when we're just going to have to accept the limitations of reality. There is no way for the BBC to actually make Kingston age backwards.

The anon has a point about Matt Smith though. I doubt anyone's going to be complaining next year or the year after because the 'old' Doctor in the season opener looks younger than the current Doctor, who's meant to be several hundred years younger.

[(Anonymous)]

But it's possible that they have to change the actor at some point just to make it believable. Suspension of disbelief has its limits, too. I think it'd be a pity because I like Kingston as an actor and it'd be odd to see someone else play an adult River.

If it's any consolation, I will. "Little" details like that always bug me so much and it's why I tend to dislike the strictly timey-whimey stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't see how an entirely different person playing the part is more realisitic than Kingston looking pretty much the same.