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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-13 08:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #1592 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1592 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[BSG]


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[Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds]


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[Supernatural]


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[Glee]


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09. [repeat]


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[Once Upon A Time In Mexico]


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[Breakout Kings]


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[Supernatural]


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[Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai]


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[Invasion America]


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[Zork Nemesis]


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[Waiting for Godot and Good Omens]


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[Withnail & I]


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[Gorillaz]


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[The Young Riders]


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[Pride & Prejudice]


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[Shantae: Risky's Revenge]


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[bbc sherlock (lestrade)]








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24. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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25. [SPOILERS for Ghost Trick]



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26. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey]



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27. [SPOILERS for Death Note]



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28. [SPOILERS for the Tudors]



29. [SPOILERS for Transformers: Dark of the Moon]



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30. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]



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31. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]










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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, abuse]



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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse/sexual assault]

[Glee]


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34. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]
[TRIGGER WARNING for parent death?]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, racism, abuse, and pedophilia]



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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-harm]



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38. [TRIGGER WARNING for sexual abuse]

[Kuroshitsuji II]




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[identity profile] phaethon.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
I found Light in general to be oddly sympathetic, even though what he did was abhorrent. I always thought his character was intended to inspire mixed emotions like that.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
THANK you.

[identity profile] cherryfission.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
This.

I couldn't help but get attached to the little bastard in spite of myself. :\

[identity profile] bleed-peroxide.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Same here. He did some fucking heinous stuff, but I found it hard to hate him because you saw him transform into that over time. It wasn't like he started off with a god complex.

[identity profile] diorama23.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Only a day after he got the Death Note he considered killing some of his fellow school students because they were bullying another kid and what made him decide against it was because it wouldn't do to kill someone who he knew because it would be too obvious.

He wasn't an angel who was corrupted by the death note, he was already fairly horrible, which is why Ryuk thought he was fun.

[identity profile] lljscrawls.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree. Look at the difference between how Light is when he has the Death Note, and how he is during the arc where he gives up his memories. They're like two completely different people. Not only that, but after he first used the Death Note, he very nearly threw up with the knowledge that he killed two different people. The Death Note did corrupt him, and I believe it's stated somewhere that "anyone who uses a Death Note will experience misfortune for the rest of their lives."

Light wasn't a terrible person to begin with, just a normal person. The Death Note was just a tainted supernatural object that corrupted the negative qualities that were already inside him, is all. It would have done it to anyone else who used it as he did.

[identity profile] diorama23.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
I think we were reading a completely different manga, there were signs very early on that there was something wrong with Light. But I don't really care enough to argue about it.

[identity profile] lljscrawls.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, that just tells me that you can't back up your argument. We BARELY see him early in the manga before he gets the Death Note. All we see of him is that he's bored in school, and thinks that he experiences the same thing day in and day out. How many students feel that way? I often feel like I'm trapped in my life, that I'm bored with what's going on. Does that mean that I'm a horrible person? Does that mean that there's something wrong with me, that I'm going to go on a mass killing spree? Of course not! It just means that I'm a bored (now college) student.

The most we see of Raito without the Death Note influence is during the arc where he gives up his memories of it -- where he throws himself full force into finding and stopping Kira. He has absolutely no influence from the Death Note at that point, and the mangaka even stated in How To Read: 13 that that was the life he would have led had he never picked up the Death Note. I can go get the book out of my room, if you'd like, and find the exact quote.

So, I don't know, unless you think going into law enforcement to find world-class serial killers means you have something wrong with you and you're a terrible person, I really do think we were reading a different manga, because Light wasn't a horrible person to begin with -- the Death Note just corrupted him. Aside from which, it's not as if Ryuuk chose him -- it was pure chance that Raito happened to be the one to pick it up off the ground, and it wasn't Raito's "evilness" that made him interesting to Ryuuk, but rather, the schemes that he cooked up to hide what he was doing. It was only once he got caught that Ryuuk found him boring and wrote his name down.

[identity profile] diorama23.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
Look, really it's isn't something I fan over, it's a series I enjoyed mildly and I have very little investment in the series, or the character.So when I say I don't care enough to argue with you about it, it's because I don't care enough about it to argue with you about it. Not for any other reason, and obviously you care enough about it. So more power to you and your perspective.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what I don't get about people like you? Why you start an argument about something in the first place if you don't care enough to argue. Did ya think that when you disagreed with bleed_peroxide up there that no one was going to say, "ah, but this, this, and this?"

If you don't actually want to have a discussion about something, then don't join the damn discussion. And if you do join it, and then have to back out due to not caring, don't be surprised if people are like, "...huh?"

[identity profile] diorama23.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I said I didn't think he was an angel from the beginning, but I'm not willing to do a thesis to back up my opinion over a television character, I didn't realise the person above was so invested in Light, and at that point I knew it was a stupid arguement to have.

I find that in fandom if a person loves a character enough to make a multi-paragraph post defending them, nothing I'm going to say is going to change their mind and I have no interest in changing anyone's mind over an opinion about a make-believe character.

[identity profile] bleed-peroxide.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying that he was a perfect angel by any means - simply that he didn't start off with this idea that he could justify killing people simply because they didn't like his methods.

[identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 10:39 am (UTC)(link)
It's remarkable how the story does that, isn't it? You get to see the good-intentioned kid within Light before he becomes all HELLO MASS MURDERER PERFECTING HIS MWAH HA HA LAUGH OVER HERE. You delight seeing him escape from every trap laid for him, because watching both the trap and the escape are twisty and clever. Even as I waited for someone to put him down like the rabid dog he'd become, I cackled with glee over every new move of his. It's remarkably done.