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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-13 08:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #1592 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1592 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[BSG]


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[Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds]


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[Supernatural]


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[Glee]


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09. [repeat]


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[Once Upon A Time In Mexico]


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[Breakout Kings]


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[Supernatural]


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[Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai]


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[Invasion America]


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[Zork Nemesis]


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[Waiting for Godot and Good Omens]


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[Withnail & I]


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[Gorillaz]


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[The Young Riders]


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[Pride & Prejudice]


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[Shantae: Risky's Revenge]


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[bbc sherlock (lestrade)]








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24. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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25. [SPOILERS for Ghost Trick]



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26. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey]



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27. [SPOILERS for Death Note]



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28. [SPOILERS for the Tudors]



29. [SPOILERS for Transformers: Dark of the Moon]



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30. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]



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31. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]










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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, abuse]



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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse/sexual assault]

[Glee]


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34. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]
[TRIGGER WARNING for parent death?]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, racism, abuse, and pedophilia]



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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-harm]



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38. [TRIGGER WARNING for sexual abuse]

[Kuroshitsuji II]




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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #227.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
But it's pretty annoying to have a kink for something you know is wrong IRL to the point that you already feel guilty about it, and then on top of that have someone call you disgusting and all sorts of other negative epithets.

I don't think the OP is saying that anyone has the right to flame you or make personal attacks on you because you have a kink. The OP is just saying that people also have the right to say they don't like a kink without getting flamed or accused of attacking someone. There are a lot of people who will go on tirades about how disgusting they think a person is for having a kink and those people are out of line. But simply expressing your dislike of a kink doesn't automatically mean you're making disparaging comments about a person and a lot of people take it that way.

I would also like to really point out that the "pedo" thing is particularly annoying when a) the "children" in question are actually teenagers, therefore making it not pedophilia and not even illegal in some places, b) you get off to the age difference because, to quote moot, "I wish to be the little girl" and c) one of the reasons it's a kink in the first place is because you experienced it IRL.

I didn't say anything about pedos...?

So I think it's actually insensitive on the part of some of these people to "call people out" for their socially unacceptable kinks when they were molested, statutory raped, or whatever as kids AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE THE KINK IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE

It looks like you missed my other comment about this. Again, it's not those people's voices the OP is defending. It's the voices of the people that have had those things happen to them and are definitely NOT into those kinks. When they say that they don't like X kink because X happened, people tend to say "Just don't read the fucking fic!" or "Pay attention to the fucking warning!" or "Some people like them and they had X happen to them too so don't go judging people." The person never even said they read the fic and they probably go to a lot of trouble not to get triggered. They also never said anything about judging anyone or thinking anyone is gross/disgusting/etc. But the fact is that they can't even say they don't like a kink without people assuming they go looking for the fic just to complain about it or that they're automatically saying that people who have those kinks are disgusting and shouldn't have them, when it's often nothing like that.

For instance, if a secret was "I don't know why people don't get off on X kink" or "I really like X kink" and someone commented saying that they don't like it for "such and such" reason (and they were really civil), people would automatically scream "THEN DON'T FUCKING READ IT!" even though the person never said anything about having read anything. If the person said "I personally think that X is gross and I can't get off on it," a ton of people would start flaming them about how they're judging people and "how dare you kink shame!" or "I think you're disgusting for calling people disgusting" when the person never said anything about people being disgusting.

If I say I don't like apples and I find them disgusting, I'm not labeling as "disgusting" every person for whom apples are a favorite fruit. But a lot of people can't differentiate between "general claim" and "personal attack" and they go off on people for no reason, telling them to STFU and all that nonsense when the person has just as much right to express their dislike as another person does to express how much that kink turns them on.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
You pinned this one square on the nose, and eloquently so, You should be proud ♥