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fandomsecrets2011-05-13 08:02 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2011-05-13 08:02 pm
[ SECRET POST #1592 ]
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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[BSG]
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[Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds]
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[Supernatural]
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[Glee]
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[Once Upon A Time In Mexico]
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[Breakout Kings]
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[Supernatural]
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[Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai]
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[Invasion America]
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[Zork Nemesis]
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[Waiting for Godot and Good Omens]
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[Withnail & I]
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[Gorillaz]
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[The Young Riders]
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[Pride & Prejudice]
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[Shantae: Risky's Revenge]
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[bbc sherlock (lestrade)]
[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]
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24. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]
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25. [SPOILERS for Ghost Trick]
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26. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey]
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27. [SPOILERS for Death Note]
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28. [SPOILERS for the Tudors]
29. [SPOILERS for Transformers: Dark of the Moon]
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30. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]
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31. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]
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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, abuse]
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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse/sexual assault]
[Glee]
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34. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]
[TRIGGER WARNING for parent death?]
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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, racism, abuse, and pedophilia]
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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-harm]
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38. [TRIGGER WARNING for sexual abuse]
[Kuroshitsuji II]
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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #227.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
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Re: Spoilers for Prom episode
It's also incredibly hard to change ones self when you're afraid that by doing so you're going to be persecuted. Keep in mind he only became a member of the bully whips because Santana threatened him. Karofsky is scared to come out of the closet. It's a big thing to ask someone to change when they're not ready, like when Kurt told Karofsky to come out of the closet. It's irrational for you to expect him to change on his own will, not when his life is controled by the fear of persecution by his peers.
Re: Spoilers for Prom episode
It's not hard to stop being an asshole. I'm not saying he should come out. I never said that. If he had taken the initiative to become a better person by himself, and not because of Santana, for exmaple. Or maybe said that, hey, I can change schools so you can come back because I know you don't feel safe around me! Or apologizing to Figgins and try to help Kurt get back without any kind of blackmail. As it is Karofksy is still the same bully he was. He's just been blackmailed into stopping and did not stop out of any real change of character or feelings of guilt. lol at me being "irrational" for expecting someone to stop abusing people because they're ~scared~. Every gay person is scared. Only the assholes and abusers chose to show that fear through abusing other people. hth.
Re: Spoilers for Prom episode
But that does not mean that the person apologizing doesn't mean it and doesn't want the person apologizing to know. If you want to think an apology is a bad thing, then fine. Go ahead and live in your world of complete distrust of others, people actually do have good intentions at times, and just because it helps them feel better to does not mean that what they did was selfish or bad. Unless you really think that Kurt did not want to hear an apology, or didn't want to know whether Karofsky was sorry or not, what he did was not a selfish or bad thing to do.
And you fail at forgivness. I forgive Karofsky for acting out of fear, because acting out of fear, is a very human and natural thing to do.
And yes, you're still irrational.
Re: Spoilers for Prom episode
Secondly. You know nothing about me. I'm perfectly capable of forgivness. But Karofsky is a fictional character and abuser. I can hate him and I will. He is not a real human that will suffer from my hatred and judgement of him.
I forgave the boy who sexually assaulted me in real life. So don't tell me I don't know how to fucking forgive, cause I do. But you know what? It wasn't about him and he doesn't deserve that forgivness from me. I don't owe it to him to guide and support and forgive him when he cries for it because he had a hard time and was confused about his sexuality at the time. I'm sure it was human, rape is a very human thing to do after all, but that doesn't make it okay. I hear people like you all the time. Rape/abuse apologists is nothing new. It doesn't make you a bigger person. People who excuse these men because they were ~sad~ or ~struggling~ are just apologists who hide behind compassion as an excuse. YOU are just like them. I know you don't like that label, but that's what you are and it's sad that you can't see that.
Also;
I forgive Karofsky for acting out of fear,
lol, wut. Dude, he is NOT real. He is not your friend. And mostly he did not hurt YOU so your forgivness is meaningless.
Re: Spoilers for Prom episode
(Anonymous) 2011-05-23 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)Annnnnnnd with that statement, you made your WHOLE argument completely invalid :D
Also showing some sympathy/relating to Karofsky doesn't makes us forget the shit he's done. Calling people rape apologist whenever someone shows some sympathy to Karofsky doesn't make you a bigger person either. With your logic apparently Kurt is a rape apologist too.
Re: Spoilers for Prom episode