[ SECRET POST #158 ]

[shahni.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #158 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

This is a magic post and I'm not really here. :D

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 58 secrets from Secret Submission Post #023.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, June 13th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: Here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

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[cephiedvariable.livejournal.com]

And Will outsmarted everyone and their mother, held his breath underwater for, like, fifteen minutes and then became the freaking captain of the Flying Dutchman. Also, he's got the prettiest eyes that ever roamed the seven seas since Davy Jones went squid-faced.

She's a main character. Main characters, by virtue of being main characters, are GOING to be attractive and have interesting things happen to them. My point here is that Will and Elizabeth have pretty much the same sort of character arc: they wanted little to do with pirates, got tangled up with Jack Sparrow and ended up pretty much fufilling legendary roles in the pirate universe. While people will complain about Will because he's Orlando Bloom his character doesn't appeal to them, no one cries OMG STU!!! because of his "Touch o' destiny".

I'm not saying that people shouldn't DISLIKE Elizabeth, I'm just saying that she's not a Sue.

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[panksters.livejournal.com]

Saying Will is the same way doesn't disprove Elizabeth being a Sue.

On that note, Will also betrayed everyone like five thousand times, which knocks him down on the cliche scale.

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[samuraiter.livejournal.com]

(Ms. Swann speechified. That's all it took for her to fall off the respect scale for me. Speechifying can make any character look bad who isn't in 300 or something.)

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[panksters.livejournal.com]

That speech reminded me of King Arthur so bad.

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[manda-babylon.livejournal.com]

This phenomenon, commonly referred to as The Saint Crispin's speech, originated with Shakespeare and is seen as a necessary element to a "Dramatic" story. However, it is also exactly the sort of thing that does happen and is appreciated in real life. This isn't meant to sound snarky, because I really don't understand: why is it okay in 300 but not in another movie about a group of people facing the entire annihilation of their way of life and the entire world they knew?