[ SECRET POST #158 ]

[shahni.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #158 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

This is a magic post and I'm not really here. :D

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 58 secrets from Secret Submission Post #023.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, June 13th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: Here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[panksters.livejournal.com]

No, because you're forgetting that the writers write that shit. Elizabeth didn't have to be mistaken for Calypso. They could have just gone SHE HAWT I WANT 2 BONE HER LOLOL or something. They could have done anythign they wanted to, so saying she had to do this and this and this is retarded. The writers wrote her that way instead of doing something else. They made her extremely central, lovey, strong, and the pirate king like any suethor would.

Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[cephiedvariable.livejournal.com]

Sao Feng's assumption that Elizabeth was Calypso was mostly for exposition's sake, honestly. And didn't have much to do with her being attractive- he ignored her until she spoke about what a pirate's duty should be. And then he was all: "Oh, a woman with Barbossa who says bold things. Women cannot be on the seas so obviously it must be Calypso! Of course, I am brilliant!" I mean, we ALL knew Calypso was Tia Dalma, but I think the writers were trying to draw out the mystery a little more. Make it a LITTLE less obvious. They failed pretty badly, of course, but y'know. PotC ain't the smartest movie around. I'll give it brownie points for trying.

If he had just wanted to bone her, the entire endevour would have been empty and meaningless. Maybe Elizabeth could have won her Pirate Lord title with some actual FIGHTING, which I would not have objected to, but that would have made Sao Feng look like even MORE of a sleaze and given us no juicy plot information about Calypso. :P

Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[panksters.livejournal.com]

I guess this argument just doesn't do anything for me, because I thought Calypso was really retarded. And I didn't really like the movie :(

Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[cephiedvariable.livejournal.com]

:P I loved the movie passionately but also think it's kind of totally flawed and actually not very good in a good many ways, so I can respect that. *thumbs up*

Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[panksters.livejournal.com]

Uh no, because I liked her in the first two movies, and that sounds like something that would have happened to her.

Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[cephiedvariable.livejournal.com]

Well DUH. Because isn't simply disliking any given female character grounds enough to call her a Sue?

Though if Elizabeth WERE a Sue, she'd certainly be more at place in her time period.

OOOOH, YEAH, I JUST TOOK A CRACK AT VICTORIAN LITERATURE.

... AND I DID IT EVEN THOUGH POTC IS TOTALLY, LIKE, 70 YEARS TOO EARLY FOR THAT TO APPLY.

Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[dropsofgleam.livejournal.com]

Any female character that fans don't like = Sue. I've seen. Just look at Kagome and Lacus Clyne.

Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[maiafay.livejournal.com]

You know, after reading the thread in it's entirety, I've come to the conclusion, Prankster, that you will not listen to any argument, anyone offers to you...anyway.

This kind of pigheadedness is redundant and wastes everyones time who's trying to convince you. What I've gathered so far, is that you're irritated at the Liz/Calypso scene (which led to the death of Sao Feng), irritated that she was made pirate king to FURTHER the plot (since she was an outsider, not affiliated with the council, and therefore, able to make an objective decision that was not based on greed or selfish reasons. But hey, what do I know?), and incensed that she learned how to sword fight from her boy toy William.

Ultimately, you seem more angry at the writers than anything. Liz is no more a Sue than say, Buffy TVS, Cordy from Angel, Max from Dark Angel, and so on and so forth. Liz is one of the main characters, the writers are entitled to do as they wish. She wasn't the main focal point of "any" movie, rather, a part of the whole. She played a bigger role in the third movie, because her character went through many things: the death of her father, Will's betrayal and cold behavior, her guilt over Jack, and her belief that they all should stop Beckett and Davey.

So, by your reasoning, she should have behaved like a GIRL and sit somewhere while all the menfolk run around? LMAO!!!

Lolz. You're cute, you know that? I'm going to hit you with my GET-A FRICKING CLUE-club a few times, and hope after the stars clear and you stop stumbling around--that maybe your commonsense will kick start.

Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[panksters.livejournal.com]

She wasn't put into situations/acted in a way that that made her a sue.