ext_82219 ([identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-06-12 03:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #158 ]


⌈ Secret Post #158 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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This is a magic post and I'm not really here. :D

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 58 secrets from Secret Submission Post #023.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, June 13th, 2007.
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[identity profile] moebot.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
IMO, Elizabeth isn't all "I can speak up and be loud, because women can do that in the 1700s lololol" at all. And she's not the only female doing stuff in the movies :x Remember Anamaria from the first film? She had a minor role but was captaining the ship in Jack's absence at one point. The Chinese Pirate Lord was also a woman. Sao Feng's concubines were capable of fighting from the brief glimpse we saw of them.

You're complaining about a woman doing something and it being unrealistic in a movie with zombie pirates and a giant undead ship full of fishmen? I really doubt that Pirates is meant to be taken as being historically accurate. So in the second movie she learns how to fight (which she could have done in private with Will teaching her, and he's the best swordsman in the film), and through a series of circumstances, disguises herself as a dude and does some more shit to save the love of her life. I mean, she was never presented as being a keep-to-the-rules kind of gal anyway, and her father seemed to indulge her quite a bit, so her being willing to do (and learn to do) crazy shit for the sake of people she loves isn't too much of a stretch.

You keep jumping from problem to problem. If Elizabeth was a (crazy) man, she wouldn't be a Sue? That's ridiculous.

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[identity profile] panksters.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
Fantasy yes, but they placed in (originally) in a realistic setting. Port Royal was a real place, there were actually pirates, there were actually governors. By taking what historical accuracy it had and throwing it out the window, the writers kind of destroyed the idea that THIS HAPPENED HERE or IT COULD BE YOU thing that Harry Potter pulls off so well.

WHy is that ridiculous? If Elijah was a crazy man who became a pirate whilst chasing his boyfriend, he wouldn't be a sue at all.
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Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[identity profile] panksters.livejournal.com 2007-06-14 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess you could think that, if you ignore everything else I said.
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Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[identity profile] panksters.livejournal.com 2007-06-14 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, or you could just stop replying ROFL.
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Re: (spoiler warning, before anyone clicks on this collapsed thread by accident)

[identity profile] panksters.livejournal.com 2007-06-14 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, because I'm definately a member of fandom wank, and didn't just suggest you stop replying.