[ SECRET POST #158 ]

[shahni.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #158 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

This is a magic post and I'm not really here. :D

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 58 secrets from Secret Submission Post #023.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, June 13th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: Here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[doubtful-salmon.livejournal.com]

I totally disagree. I mean, I even saw the movie in the first place because I'm a huge Lord of the Rings fan, and I never thought that it was Will's story. The first person you see onscreen is Elizabeth. She is the object of the first film...she is the reason that everything happens. It is she who finds Will, it is she who dreams about him, she who falls in the water, she who asks to meet up with Barbossa and call off the hunt, she who lies, and she who is chased after when she is finally stuck not necessarily because of her gender but because she made a mistake. Will is only an important character, at least in my eyes, because Elizabeth makes him one. All his actions, in the whole movie, seem to be fueled by Elizabeth...and almost all of hers are her own.

So yes, Elizabeth is a plot device, but actually, so are all protagonists. They're not mutually exclusive.

[i-am-the-apeman.livejournal.com]

The first person you see onscreen is Elizabeth...Will is only an important character...because Elizabeth makes him one.

In my eyes, these two things make Elizabeth the narrator of the story, but that doesn't necessarily make her the protagonist. For example, in "The Shawshank Redemption", Red is the narrator, but Andy is the protagonist.

It is she who finds Will, it is she who dreams about him...

You have a very valid point with all of these examples. You're right in that a lot of action not only revolves around Elizabeth, but she takes a lot of action. But again, I come back to the question of arc. And it doesn't really feel like Elizabeth has one, definitely not when compared to Will. To me that is what differentiates between a character who's integral to the story and a protagonist.

[doubtful-salmon.livejournal.com]

I don't know...if we were going to argue it that way, I'd say that the protagonist is Jack Sparrow. After all, the love story is an equal share Will and Elizabeth's...but the catalyst for a lot of the story is Jack Sparrow's desire to get back the Pearl.