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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-06-05 03:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #1615 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1615 ⌋


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Re: OP

[identity profile] cephiedvariable.livejournal.com 2011-06-05 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Those which are CONCILIATORY, the pale and ashen, would be more closely likened to platonic relationships by human standards.

A reasonable human translation would be the concept of a soul mate, but in a more platonic sense, and with a more specific social purpose.

The reason Moiralligience is considered a romance is because it has a social purpose that is equally as important as reproduction in troll culture, not because it is meant to be a direct analogue to human romantic attraction. Considering homo and heterosexuality are not concepts that exist in troll culture to differentiate between same and opposite gender pairings, there's no reason to assume that Kanaya's physical attraction to women would also dominate her non-sexual relationships. Kanaya being Vriska's moirail doesn't indicate that she can only experience pale attraction to women; the only reason she was Vriska's moirail was because she was flushed and taking what she could get. We've never seen Kanaya in a true moiralligience, but we have seen her form close friendships with both male and female characters.

Also, I am very sorry that you have been abused and respect and understand the right of any woman to write men off completely, but I'm not really sure real world misogyny can be used to make inferences about troll culture since they appear for all intents and purposes to have gender equality (despite a few glaring dialogue over-sights on Hussie's part :/). Kanaya's experience as a queer troll isn't really comparable, which I suppose is problematic in some respects but that's probably a debate for another time.

What I'm trying to say is: if you don't like seeing her in any kind of close relationship with a male character, that's fine, but your interpretation is subjective.
Edited 2011-06-05 21:58 (UTC)

Unrelated

[identity profile] ishicat.livejournal.com 2011-06-05 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry for butting in, but the art in your icon was drawn by me - do you mind tossing in a mention of my tumblr username (myotishi) if you're going to use it?

Re: Unrelated

[identity profile] cephiedvariable.livejournal.com 2011-06-05 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Done and done! Thank you. ♥

Re: OP

[identity profile] violent-aki.livejournal.com 2011-06-05 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
This is pretty much what I was going to say, except I can't do words and Cephied can, so.

+1

Basically romance =/= sexual attraction =/= friendship etc. etc. It can, yes, but not always, every time, ever.

And I am sorry about your experiences, OP, but I'm also a queer woman who has several close friends that are male, female, trans, queer, what have you, that I'm not sexually attracted to but that I do consider to be Very Important People In My Life, more important than casual friends/acquaintances/classmates/co-workers/etc. And I think that's what moirallegiance, at its very core, is really all about.

Plus, yeah. They're aliens. And not humans. So there's that too.