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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-06-05 03:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #1615 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1615 ⌋


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[identity profile] jessieheart.livejournal.com 2011-06-05 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
My mix is about a gay Shepard who found out that he could be gay in ME3, and decided to totally rock out to it in a "screaming queen" fashion. I understand that some people would look at him and see a stereotype, but I, personally, wouldn't crash his party. I understand that some people view it as the perpetuation of a stereotype, but that's not how I see it at all. I see it as empowering to take something campy or ridiculous and make it your own.

And, again, if Decuvieri was so wildly offended, the issue could have been taken to me directly and expressed thoughtfully, rationally, and I might have removed the mix or made an addendum or even worked with Decuvieri to make a completely new, "ideal" fanmix that celebrated gay Shepard in a way that more evenly represented the community. But it wasn't. It was tossed in my face on a completely different community on a completely different topic, and I was called "obnoxious" for doing nothing more than posting my Shepards.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-06 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I know I thought about contacting you about that mix, because it sure as fuck offended me.

Problem is, you've proven to be oblivious to the thoughts and feelings of others. Example, the M!Shepard/F!Shepard post back at masseffect comm. Yes, you talk back, but you just don't seem to understand anything said by the other party. You just pick out buzz words and act wounded or get all "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, WOO!"

Shit, look at how you're acting right now. You're ignoring what c_saber is saying. Instead you're trying to explain gay empowerment to him. He knows about more gay empowerment than you ever will.

[identity profile] jessieheart.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
You know, maybe you should have contacted me. I can be downright reasonable, given the chance.

And I don't agree that I was ignoring c_saber or trying to tell him how to feel empowered. I merely wished to impress that my mix can be viewed as empowering, but I recognize that it also can be viewed as offensive. My inability to completely agree with your side of the argument does not mean that I don't understand it. I simply disagree.

EDIT: Additionally, I am sorry that you were offended by my fanmix. It was not my intent to offend, it was my intent to empower. I stand by my song selections (and I stand by the artists who created them, because I do not think that they meant to offend anyone, either) but I do regret that it upset some people.
Edited 2011-06-06 00:34 (UTC)

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
In that argument, both sides were ignoring the mass of what was said. JessieHeart, however, was trying to keep track of probably a dozen other people's counter-arguments, and many of them were arguing extreme opposite ends of the spectrum, so of course it looked like she was misinterpreting. And she did apologize within that forum for some of her more frustratedly tackles replies. But it seems unfair of you to hold something against someone without at least trying to talk to them about it. :/