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fandomsecrets2011-06-05 03:36 pm
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Re: ^
(Anonymous) 2011-06-06 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)THERE ARE NOT TWO FORMS OF SEXISM. THERE IS ONE FORM OF SEXISM THAT AFFECTS BOTH MEN AND WOMEN. ONE GROUP VASTLY, VASTLY, VASTLY MORE THAN THE OTHER, CONSIDERING IT IS THE SEX THAT IT, YOU KNOW, TARGETS.
In order to fix "sexism" against men, we need to primarily address sexism against women. Anything else is treating the symptoms and not the cause!
Fucking A.
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(Anonymous) 2011-06-06 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)THERE IS ONE FORM OF SEXISM THAT AFFECTS BOTH MEN AND WOMEN.
I agree with you on that point, but I knew the OP didn't, so I expressed myself in the way that'd take less explaining on my part.
Anything else is treating the symptoms and not the cause!
And what is the cause, pray tell? Because whatever it is, I think it's too complex to treat it directly. We can only treat the symptoms and that's what we do: we spread our message, we fight slut-shaming, we rally for equal pay. Why not treat the symptoms that affect men more directly, too?
5. Because erasing the ways misogyny hurts men damages women, since making people realize how the system hurts them is the best way to gain an ally.
This shouldn't be the women's fight. This should be everyone's fight. Since, you know, we're trying create this brave new world that EVERYONE will get to enjoy. But if we want everyone to be involved in this fight, we can't just attend the issues that affect white-cis-middle-class-women and ignore everything else.
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Both are problems, both exist. Saying "But this is the root cause!" is bull. Society is not one person. There's lots of reasons for irrational hatred and prejudice, and those numbers can be tied to the population of irrational haters and bigots.