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I'm gonna say right now, when I play Bioware games I immerse into the characters so deeply that it colors my vision of everything. My first run was as a peacekeeper rogue involved with Anders, trying not to take sides, who defaulted to mages when there was no peaceful solution. So in the end when the Chantry blew up, I wasn't expecting it. I yelled at Anders and told him to get the hell out of my sight, mostly hurt because he hadn't trusted me with the truth, hadn't warned me, and I was so shocked and horrified by the violence. But by the time I got to the Circle (or what was left of it), seeing Anders there, all I could do was hold him and forgive him. :x ~~I am such a girl.~~

That being said, in hindsight, I don't like what Anders did. But I know why he did it, and on some level I know it was necessary. I honestly really do wish that we had been able to save the Revered Mother because while she wasn't perfect, as I saw it she didn't have anything against mages walking free - something I'm honestly not used to seeing in the Chantry.

And on a separate note: the whole "people are harder on Anders than Fenris"... I think I've been around the rabid fangirls too much, 'cause they all seem to want to give Anders the world. ... and a test drive. And Fenris is INSANELY biased, but if you look hard enough, he does have some valid reasons to distrust mages as a whole. It's not enough to sway my position, but as I said in my earlier post, I really do appreciate that we got more insight than just "OHMIGAWD WHAT IF THEY TURN INTO ABOMINATIONS OHGOD WHAT WOULD WE DO WE CAN'T TRUST THEM AND THE BLOOD MAGIC, FUCKNO MAGES!"... 'cause... those arguments were getting REALLY STALE.

Honestly my biggest problem was the Revered mother, because shew knew what Meredith and her Templars were doing to people, and she never did anything to stop it. She claimed she couldn't take sides, which is absurd considering one side was forcefully removing the other side's personalities because they were inconvenient-- not in the blood magic sense, but in suggesting that Meredith's methods were flawed. She had the power to stop it, but she didn't, and she paid her price.

I get really immersed as well, which is why I feel so passionately about this-- my absolute favorite Hawke who I think of as "The" Hawke was a mage who was sick of being told she was broken, and sick of watching people like her being mistreated, and my entire opinion was colored by that.

Yeah, I understand where Fenris is coming from... but again, from the perspective of my mage, it's like meeting someone who had a traumatically bad experience with someone of your nationality, and they're holding you by those standards, when you had nothing to do with what was done to them. Someone who has an entire religion telling them they're dirty and bad is not going to appreciate Fenris' quipping in and reminding them. And yeah, he reminded me too much of actual hate groups for me to really be able to get past my mage's hurt feelings and actually like him. That said, his comment to Merrill sealed the coffin.

I... want to be your friend. ♥

:O k!

I've said the exact same things about Elthina. Her stance of neutrality and finding a way to prevent bloodshed and trouble only works when there's another person doing the same. Meredith and Orsino were both teetering on the edge of the deep end, and one person couldn't pull the both of them back from the brink. On top of that, by not taking a stand, she probably made things worse, because both groups took it as tacit approval. And since she is nominally Meredith's superior, she not only could have stepped in and told her off (Rite of Tranquility forced on mages who have passed their Harrowing, taking control of the city, etc), she chose not to. To Mother Patrice, she spoke of have eyes and ears given by the Maker, she should use them, and yet three years later, she has let herself be blinded into complacency. There's no way that tales of Meredith's abuses never reached her ears, and she never did anything about it.

I think Elthina is a person with good intentions and a laudable goal. But she was also sticking her fingers in her ears and going 'lalalalala!' It doesn't make me feel like she deserved what happened, but I do think that she brought it on herself.

Overall, with Anders, Fenris, Merrill, and Isabella, I'm disappointed that if you're friend-mancing them, it basically leads to agreeing with them at every turn, while rival-mances open their eyes to their flaws and make them try to fix their problems. It really bugs me - I like to think that if you're romancing someone in a friendly fashion, you wind up trying to fix your problems to be a better person. I don't want Fenris to treat me as the exception that proves the rule, I want him to see that his attitude is destructive. Same with the others. That's about my only complaint with the game's romances.

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