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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-06-10 07:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #1620 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1620 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.
[Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae wo Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai]



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02.
[Hetalia]


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03.
[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]


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04.
[Michael Silas/Asiel Hardison, Lady Gaga's dancers]


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05.
[Tiger & Bunny]


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06.
[Evangelion]


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07.
[Zero Punctuation]


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08.
[The Catherine Tate Show]


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09.
[Grimgrimoire]


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10.
[wonderful days, guyver, cowboy bebop, texhnolyze, togainu no chi, black lagoon, samurai champloo, aishiteruze baby, tenjo tenge]


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11.
[X-Men: First Class]


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12.
[Tales of the Abyss]


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13.
[Human Target]


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14.
[A Song of Ice and Fire]


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15.
[Masterchef Australia]


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16.
[Sucker Punch]


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17.
[Mystique]


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18.
[Workaholics]


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19.
[Mark Reads]


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20.
[Jamie Campbell Bower ]


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21.
[Hey Arnold!]












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22. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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23. [SPOILERS for Gintama]



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24. [SPOILERS for Kamen Rider Kabuto]



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25. [SPOILERS for Loveless]



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26. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]



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27. [SPOILERS for Mockingjay]



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28. [SPOILERS for Kung Fu Panda 2]

















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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for non-con]



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30. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[Game of Thrones]


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31. [TRIGGER WARNING for eating disorders]



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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for transphobia?]



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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[SPN]


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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, pedophilia]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for eating disorders]



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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-injury, suicide]

[Manic Street Preachers]






Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #231.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
You're missing the point that most people are defending. It's not about making it "acceptable", it's about 1) freedom of thought and expression, and 2) the expression of sexual preferences in a way that harms no one else.

Please don't listen to those asshats at sf_drama. The vast majority of them have NO IDEA what they're talking about, and there are large, gaping logic problems in the vast majority of their arguments. This might make you feel a little bit better about your kinks, anon:

The majority of non-con and loli/shota fics focus almost exclusively on the sexual aspect of it. It's about the characters getting off, and most of the time, it starts as non/dub con and moves into ~true love~. (Which is grossly inaccurate, but true enough of most fandoms.) This tells me, straight up, that the majority of people writing these fics have no idea about the pathology behind a rapist/molester. Rape and molestation is not about sex; it's about power and control. It's about dominating another person, stripping away their rights as a human being, in order to make yourself (yourself being the hypothetical rapist, in this situation) feel more in control. The vast majority of rapists are insecure, cowardly people with severe mental problems. The sex and getting off is only a small part of it.

The people who write non-con rarely portray this in their fics. The ones that do... well, their fics are more of an emotional impact piece than a pwp; the ones that do aren't meant to be enjoyed. To them and the people that read it, it is all about the sex. These people don't want actual rape fic; they want rape FANTASY fic, where there's a short period of vicarious loss of control through a character and then everything is better in the end. That should tell you something.

(And don't go telling me that those fics "encourage rapists and child molesters/give them ideas/trigger them into acting it out", because that's just as much of a crock. The people that go out and rape and/or molest people (adults or children) are already severely twisted human beings. They will, no matter what, eventually end up acting out their fantasies. The fic doesn't make them do it; these are people who are already fraying in terms of self-control. They're already on the edge, and sooner or later, they will fall. Taking away the fic will not stop this from happening, no matter what people say.)

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, and to clarify! When I say "They will, no matter what, eventually end up acting out their fantasies.", by 'they', I am referring to the people that actually do go out and rape/molest people. I'm very sure there are some people who have the urges and the fantasies and NEVER act them out, or who seek out help to deal with their problems, and those people are not the ones I'm referring to here.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Way to ignore the people that do get off on realistically portrayed rape fic.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
This. To be honest, I feel kinda weird when people justify rape kinks based on the idea that people only enjoy romanticized rape where the victim "really likes it".

I have a big humiliation kink. To me, the main point of a rape fantasy is that it fulfills that. And it's the fact that in the fantasy, it's an unpleasant experience for me or for the character that makes it hot.

It's still just a fantasy. It doesn't reflect how I feel about real rape, or prevent me from reacting to fictional rape in a non-erotic way. Just like my interest in humiliation fantasies and play in general isn't the same thing as liking non-consensual or unpleasant humiliation in real life.