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fandomsecrets2011-06-10 07:51 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2011-06-10 07:51 pm
[ SECRET POST #1620 ]
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
01.
[Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae wo Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai]
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02.
[Hetalia]
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03.
[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]
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04.
[Michael Silas/Asiel Hardison, Lady Gaga's dancers]
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05.
[Tiger & Bunny]
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06.
[Evangelion]
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07.
[Zero Punctuation]
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08.
[The Catherine Tate Show]
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09.
[Grimgrimoire]
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10.
[wonderful days, guyver, cowboy bebop, texhnolyze, togainu no chi, black lagoon, samurai champloo, aishiteruze baby, tenjo tenge]
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11.
[X-Men: First Class]
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12.
[Tales of the Abyss]
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13.
[Human Target]
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14.
[A Song of Ice and Fire]
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15.
[Masterchef Australia]
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16.
[Sucker Punch]
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17.
[Mystique]
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18.
[Workaholics]
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19.
[Mark Reads]
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20.
[Jamie Campbell Bower ]
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21.
[Hey Arnold!]
[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]
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22. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]
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23. [SPOILERS for Gintama]
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24. [SPOILERS for Kamen Rider Kabuto]
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25. [SPOILERS for Loveless]
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26. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]
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27. [SPOILERS for Mockingjay]
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28. [SPOILERS for Kung Fu Panda 2]
[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]
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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for non-con]
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30. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]
[Game of Thrones]
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31. [TRIGGER WARNING for eating disorders]
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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]
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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for transphobia?]
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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]
[SPN]
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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, pedophilia]
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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for eating disorders]
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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-injury, suicide]
[Manic Street Preachers]
Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #231.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.
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(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 04:27 am (UTC)(link)Okay, okay, I know the bad guy being redeemed plot CAN get cheesy and sometimes it takes more guts to NOT redeem the bad guys and to have them be irreversibly evil (speaking from experience, since all of my original stories feature bad guys that aren't really that bad. *sigh* I am weak.)
But I have such a soft spot for these two and I wish they could have had a better ending. Like you said, not "instant-good" but an ending where they rethink their actions and go off and find a new reason for living. In general, I'm also a bit tired of black & white morality, especially when it comes to animated movies -- I LOVE shades of grey. You are not alone, anon!
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(Anonymous) 2011-06-13 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)At least Shen kind of choose his own death and looked rather dignified when his own cannon crushed him.
So in the end he kind of put himself out of his own misery. He chose to die instead of listening to the one who was said to defeat him. A redemption would have been a little too out of character.
What really pissed me off was that Po's biological dad and so many other pandas were still alive. So in the end Shen's life and death and Po's acceptance of who he was were wasted in favor for the plot of a third movie.
At first you create this distrubing scenario of a genocide and in the end you are like: "April fools, kids! They're all alive! See you in three years for Kung Fu Panda 3!"
:/
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Sometimes antagonists aren't redeemed even when they're not all bad. I'll be narccissitic and say this is in something I'm creating. While the 'dragon' eventually gets redeemed as do some others, the big bad doesn't get redeemed in mine. Though it may depend on your interpretation of evil. I mean the 'big bad' is technically this guy who dispises the world because he believes it to be evil and wants to strike back because of what they took from him. He believes it is better that this world ends and so uses a particular prophecy and then failing belief system and makes it big time- now being considered as the major interpretator and perfect mediator of the gods to some he is even higher than that. And hell his own FOLLOWERS and what they are willing to do mean he feels they are simply confirming what he already knows: this world is filth and willing to each other for their own well being. (Because only through being a follower is it believed they will be spared and taken to a different world).
It's mopre complicated than that though- the guy is also immortal and many people have been raised to think and believe in this way rather than simply the idea of being saved- which he doesn't seem to grasp himself. Though a part of him probably would think that was no excuse. They're still willing to sacrifice people for the sake of the prophecy and at points do things that intrinsically feel wrong just for the sake of it.
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