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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-06-12 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #1622 ]

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(Anonymous) 2011-06-12 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, obviously forgoing co-ed sports is a GREAT way to dispel these sexist attitudes.

Did you even read my first comment? I said there would always be sexist attitudes, but they are WORSE when it comes to co-ed teams. I have had firsthand experience with this and I have many friends who have experience with this.

Forming separate teams for women isn't going to make sexism in sports go away, it's only going to bolster that attitude because women play on separate teams, so it's easier to ignore women athletes altogether (especially if the games don't get aired in a good timeslot or aired at all)

So let's just take away the ability for women to play sports at all, because there's no way a lot of them would be able to compete with men on the higher levels of the sport. Yeah, that would TOTALLY eliminate sexism in sports, you're right! Oh, no, WAIT, it wouldn't because then people would just say, 'OH I TOLD YOU WOMEN COULDN'T REALLY COMPETE WITH MEN.' At least when women are competing with other women you can make a stronger case for them being just as good with men because they're all on equal playing fields.

(Again, I point to the UConn womens' basketball team and their record-breaking number of wins.)

It's people like you who are part of the problem, to be perfectly honest.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-06-12 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it's people like you who accept current sexist attitudes as they are and do nothing to challenge them that are the problem. And forming separate sports teams for women doesn't do as much to challenge the problem of sexism, people are always going to ignore them in favor of men's teams no matter how much money or exposure you throw at the women's teams.

Again, I point to the UConn womens' basketball team and their record-breaking number of wins

That's great. Did you see the part in this thread where I said I was totally cool with women's college teams and I was only referring to professional teams? No? Okay.

We fundamentally disagree and I'm sorry that makes you mad, but you aren't changing my mind. And this discussion isn't really going anyway, so fine, consider me sexist or whatever because I want co-ed sports teams over sex-segregated ones. The end.
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(Anonymous) 2011-06-13 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
To me it sounded like they meant if things stay the way they are (sex-segregated teams) then, yes, people will continue to ignore women's sports teams no matter what kind of exposure you give them as opposed to it's unlikely that people would ignore an entire sport because it's co-ed. You're nitpicking anyways. childings made their stand on the issue quite clear.