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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-06-30 08:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #1640 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1640 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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02.
[SPN]


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03.
(The Jesus and Mary Chain)


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04.
[Evangelion]


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05.
[Dragon Age 2]


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06.
[Hetalia]


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07.
(The Last Shadow Puppets)


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08.
[Harry Potter, Justice League International]


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09.
[Fairly Odd Parents Movie]


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10.
[Psych]


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11.
[Merlin]


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12.
(Malcolm in the Middle)


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13.
[Making Fiends]


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14.
[Lackadaisy]


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15.
[Twilight]


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16.
[Psychoville]


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17.
[Code Geass]


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18.
[Game of Thrones/ASOIAF]


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19.
[Transformers: Prime]


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20.
[Homestuck]


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21.
[Naruto]


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22.
[Game of Thrones]


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23.
[X-Men]


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24.
[Homestuck]


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25.
[Final Fantasy]


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26.
[Mythbusters]


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27.
[Sanctuary]


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28.
(Battlestar Galactica)


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29.
[Land of the Lost (nineteen-nineties version)]


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30.
[Fraiser]


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31.
[Drew Carey Show]


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32.
[X-Men: First Class]


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33.
[Darren Criss/Freelance Whales/Shoot the Freak]


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34.
[Puella Magi Madoka magica, The Spoony experiment]


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35.
[Misfits]


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36.
[Hellsing]


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37.
[Madoka magica and Mahou Sentai Magiranger]


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38.
[Alpha Protocol]


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39.
[Glee]


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40.
[Mother/Earthbound Zero]


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41.
[Beastly]


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42.
[Prototype/Infamous]


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43.
[Ookiku Furikabutte]


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44.
[Hikaru no Go]


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45.
[Homestuck]


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46.
[Azumanga Daioh]


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47.
[Thor: Sons of Asgard (Marvel comics)]




Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 48 secrets from Secret Submission Post #234.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-01 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
You know shit. If you go into something, knowing that you'll in all likelihood be taking lives, without first acquainting yourself very thoroughly with that exactly you'll be doing, you're NOT INNOCENT.
Are you as bad as the people who consciously go into it?
Maybe not. Maybe you're worse. It doesn't matter. You've crossed the line - once you've shown you don't consider it a moral obligation to think long and hard before killing someone, killing you without batting an eye is just playing by your own rules.

When people you know are butchered by people ~just taking orders, then talk about how innocent the bucherers were because they weren't "totally aware of the situation and its ramifications".

[identity profile] tawabids.livejournal.com 2011-07-01 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
People who are neither aware of a crime nor capable of stopping it if they had been aware do not deserve to be punished with the perpetrators.

I'm sorry for your loss, but we're clearly not talking about the same scenario here.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-01 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
turning the missiles on those people, that makes you a bad person.

This is the scenario you were talking about that I responded to. I should've been clearer. Those soldiers were perpetrators of the killing. Maybe they weren't able to stop it, but that doesn't mean it was a-ok to go and participate in it.

Magneto wanting to annihilate the entire human species is not what I'm talking about. (obviously, many humans were innocent. All the children for one.)

(Anonymous) 2011-07-01 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
So you consider all people in the armed forces immoral and guilty by definition. But I'm not so sure Magneto would share that view since I'm not sure he's anti-military in general. In the comics did he ever serve in an army? Like the Israeli one?

The reason the phrase became so loaded was that it became associated with people who were lying about just following orders when they were actually enthusiastically supporting a policy they fully understood on some level, a policy that didn't have anything to do with self-defense either. (The people on the ships who do know the circumstances basically have the same policy as Erik of kill them before they kill you.)