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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-10 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #1650 ]

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[identity profile] masked-creator.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I know about the theory that they're siblings in OoT, but I really don't see where that comes from. Just because Zelda's mother is absent too it doesn't mean his mother and hers were the same person. Too many plot holes if you ask me.

[identity profile] ryttu3k.livejournal.com 2011-07-11 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
There's a lot of other little hints, though - not just 'Zelda's mother is absent and they both have blonde hair and blue eyes!'. One of the Composer Brothers says that Link reminds him of Zelda, Zelda recognises Link's name the first time she hears it, Impa tells Link that the Lullaby is only taught to Royal Family members, and they seem to be the only ones in all of Hyrule that have precognitive dreams.

Plus, the manga practically flat-out SAYS they're related - Link's mother fled from the castle, and Rauru says, "Royal Hylian blood flows through your veins, just like Princess Zelda!"

(Anonymous) 2011-07-11 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
The manga isn't really considered canon though. So maybe that relation implication can work for the manga-verse as you see fit, but considering it isn't canon proper, it's probably safe to assume no correlation with the game and just look at the implications in-game by themselves.

[identity profile] ryttu3k.livejournal.com 2011-07-11 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I guess :) Aonuma describes it as filling in the gaps for what they couldn't show in the game due to time and technical constraints, at least, though, and Nintendo did guide the mangaka on what to write. So if it was WAY off, they would have said, "...No, don't do that" or something.

In this case, at least, it doesn't contradict anything, it just verifies the stuff that's already in the game.

[identity profile] masked-creator.livejournal.com 2011-07-11 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
That does make a little more sense. But if it was true that they were siblings that raises a ton of other questions, like--Who's older, Zelda or Link? Why didn't the King search for the Queen after she ran from the castle? If Link is older, you'd figure they'd be searching like crazy for him--I can't see the King just marrying another woman and having Zelda to cover up his son going missing. (I would sooner buy they were half siblings in that case.) I think it just gets way too confusing.

[identity profile] ryttu3k.livejournal.com 2011-07-11 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, true - my instinct is that Zelda is older, since she seems to recognise Link's name - if she was, say, a year older, and Link was about a year when their mother fled (otherwise, it'd be really hard for him to survive in the forest - he'd probably at least have to be weaned and semi-mobile), then a two-year-old could distantly recall the name of her little brother or something. And we have no indication how old Zelda was at that time.

And it's also possible that the king DID search for the queen, but the forest being what it was, he was unable to find her. Again, there's a lot that's not actually specified.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-11 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
The Legend of Zelda games often seem to carry matriarchy vibes. It was likely they found the mother's body, and assumed Link had been lost since it implies she was chased. So it's likely Zelda was older--or that they were even twins, hence their strong connection to each other. It's stated she ran to the woods to escape the fires of war. And if she were the queen? It's not likely that their enemies would leave the infant prince alive.

[identity profile] kaasen.livejournal.com 2011-07-12 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I think the game meant to imply they were related as far as both being Hylians. I felt like most of the similarities mentioned were meant more to imply Zelda and Link had maybe a spiritual connection between them, not to establish they were related.

[identity profile] ryttu3k.livejournal.com 2011-07-12 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, maybe... the problem is, it's just not specified! It's really up to each individual player to determine their relationship. I interpret the evidence to show that they're related, but it's also totally possible to interpret it to say that there's a spiritual connection.