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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-14 08:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #1654 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1654 ⌋


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[identity profile] ninety6tears.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
She wasn't fixated on him at all at the point that we first meet her. Best sex of your life =/= love of your life. She seemed to find it a little awkward when he showed up at her door and really disapproved of him poking into her business until she was in on his job, and even then she was hesitant to know anything else because she was wary of being around a guy who obviously deals with some dangerous stuff. When she took him in, it had to be because she knew he had nowhere else to go.

I also don't see why it's seen as so unlikely that it could have been slightly more than just a one-night stand for either of them. When you really hit it off with somebody, a weekend can feel a lot longer than a weekend. And just because either of them might have been harboring the occasional thought that it's too bad that hadn't gone anywhere, it's not like they're supposed to have already fallen in love or anything.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's how I saw it. Plus...he saved her kid's life. That's reason to care about him when he showed up back in her life after battling the devil. It's not reason in itself to hook up with him again, but that could have come later since she already liked him that way.

[identity profile] ginzai.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this as well. The OP took the worst possible spin on Lisa's characterization and I don't think it meshes very well with canon. Lisa was willing and happy to show Dean the door when he first showed up. Then he saves her life, the life of her child, and it makes her reconsider. Their year together wasn't perfect, she admits as much, but she also said that she expected Dean to have some problems and was willing to work through them.

I don't know, it sort of feels like the OP is ignoring the impact that their year together had. There was a lot of things that we didn't see. Maybe that was bad writing, but it felt to me that there was a distinct impression of how we should take Dean's year with Lisa and Ben and the OP's interpretation flies in the face of that.

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(Anonymous) 2011-07-15 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I should have clarified. I was talking about Lisa before their year together. Maybe it's just because I can't relate to her character at all. I've had (don't really want to admit this, but for the purpose of my point I will) great one night stands in the past. Amazing ones, in fact. But the idea of fixating on them (most of whom I've never seen since) is so bizarre to me. It reeks of desperation and loneliness. I mean, really? Lisa couldn't find someone in those ten years who even comes close to Dean or their "amazing night" together? What's the poor woman been up to since having sex with Dean?

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[identity profile] ginzai.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
But she wasn't willing to let Dean live with her back in S3. She invited him to possibly be a part of her son's life, that's not the same thing. And that was after he'd expressed interest in being Ben's father and saved Ben's life.

I don't think it's pathetic that Dean stood out in her memory. A weekend of supremely awesome sex would have stood out in my memory too. It stood out for Dean as well, after all. Dean wanted to go see her specifically because of the great sex that they'd had. Why is it an issue that she remembers their tryst as one of the best sexual encounters of her life? Why is that pathetic when Dean did the exact same thing?

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(Anonymous) 2011-07-15 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
We know so little about Lisa, I think it's even more insulting of you to imply that she spent all her time sitting around mooning over her one night stand. She had a fling, told her friends about the fling - her friends are the ones who mentioned "best night of my life". She had a child and raised it for at least a portion of time as a single parent. How are we to know there wasn't one or two or twenty relationships during that time?

I just think it's stupid in general when fans assume that what we see on the screen is all that ever happens. I looked over the first couple of seasons of Supernatural a while back and figured up that Dean went to the bathroom once, and Sam never did. So there wasn't a monologue about Lisa seeing someone else and moving on from Dean - big deal. She did it anyway, but they never bothered to write it into the script.