[ SECRET POST #1654 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1654 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[David Tennant & Catherine Tate]


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[The Nine Lives Of Chloe King]







Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 46 secrets from Secret Submission Post #236.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - too big ], [ 0 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 0 - omgiknowthem ], [ 1 - take it to comments ], [ 1 - repeats ]
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Comments

[deadtree.livejournal.com]

That is probably the reason this comic hasn't made it all that big, because it has the makings of something that could be huge, riding on Hetalia's coattails and even with people who aren't Hetalia's fans. Fandom is especially important in this day if you want to have a franchise, and ESPECIALLY if you do webcomics.

I mean, it's the author's choice, of course, but she's shooting herself in the foot.

[kuromitsu.livejournal.com]

How is Western fandom necessary for something to "make it big" in Japan? Hetalia was already big in Japan even before it really hit Western fandom, and not reposting artwork and so on is pretty basic fandom etiquette in Japanese fandoms.

From what I've read from this manga waay back, I think the reason it hasn't made it big is because it's not really funny, caters to a lot more niché audience, and it's too blatantly a Hetalia ripoff. (Me, I'd love a manga about antropomorphized figher jets if the characters were really based on the fighter jets. At least Hetalia characters are based on RL stereotypes and/or Himaruya's own impressions.)

[deadtree.livejournal.com]

it's not necessary, but it certainly helps. Pretty obvious.

Stuff *does* get reposted by Japanese fans. They don't have some magical etiquette that we can't attain. It just doesn't happen as often because it's already in Japanese. But it still happens.

I'm glad you have hipster cred with this manga though. That's nice.

[kuromitsu.livejournal.com]

...OK, so how does having a Western fandom help something make it big in Japan? I'm honestly curious. Especially if it's a webcomic that even if it made it big would only get published in Japanese anyway.

Also, stuff mostly *doesn't* get reposted by Japanese fans. There are the imageboards of course but those operate out of usual fandom circles, in my experience people who do it are usually regarded as trolls and in any case it's not nearly as widespread as over here where people seem to think that Japanese fanart is public property and they can use and modify them however they want.

Hipster cred, oh my. :D No, sorry to let you down, but I really simply don't like it. I checked it out because I like fighter jets and was interested in the idea, but as it's not really about fighter jets...

[(Anonymous)]

The US market is now so important that companies wait to see how an Anime was received there before they green light new seasons, actually.

[kuromitsu.livejournal.com]

...well damn, now I wonder where the huge and lucrative American fandoms for Detective Conan, One Piece, etc. are hiding.

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DA

I dunno about this approval in the States thing the AYRT is talking about, but Detective Conan was huge in Europe and Latin America for quite some time.

[kuromitsu.livejournal.com]

The AWRT (anon we're referring to) thinks the American market is more important to Japan than it really is - what they say may be true for some shows that are already made with foreign markets in mind or that did surprisingly well in the US for some reason, but most shows, especially those more geared toward otaku? Especially niché things like Mitternacht Marine whatever? Nah, no chance.

As for Conan, that's true but at least in Europe that was way before the Japanese companies even realized that anime had an audience outside Japan. And I don't know about Latin America but afaik Conan was big in Germany and Italy mostly. When they tried to air it in my country some years ago it was a flop. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be as popular in Germany/Italy either, if they introduced it today.

(Btw, One Piece has a sizeable fanbase in the US, though not nearly as big as in Japan, but it doesn't really translate to sales seeing that the anime flopped and the manga doesn't sell too well either. So... the lucrative part is pretty much missing.)

[miezen.livejournal.com]

But maybe she doesn't want to "make it big"? Just a thought.

[(Anonymous)]

As far as I know, this manga is actually pretty big in Japan. It's not as huge as Hetalia, but it's got a sizable fandom. Just because you don't see it in the west doesn't mean it's not successful.

Also personally, I don't think she wants it to be huge - and that is the point. She made it because yes, she was a Hetalia fanartist and thought it was a fun idea - but she recognizes that it's iffy. Hetalia is one thing - lighthearted and silly, but this is about things that kill people, and if you make that shit cute, what does that really say about you as an artist?